CBS All Access and existing episodes

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by tribbleorlfl, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    How dare they?

    It's almost like they're trying to compete in a market.
     
  2. GeekUSACarl

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    at the end of the day that makes them very uncompetitive compared to the bigger netflix or amazon or hulu.
     
  3. alex08060

    alex08060 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    How did CBS get the license to show Discovery on CBS all access in America from Netflix ? I always though discovery will only show in Netflix.
     
  4. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    This question makes no sense. CBS owns Star Trek!
    How would they need to get the license to what they own?
     
  5. urbandefault

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    You got that backwards. CBS owns the property, and created it for All Access. They licensed it to Netflix for distribution outside the US.
     
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  6. alex08060

    alex08060 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Damn I though it was paramount pictures, in that case I’m glad the rest of the world get it on net flix.
     
  7. JWPlatt

    JWPlatt Commodore Commodore

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    They can make a profit and be customer-centric or they make a profit on their own selfish agenda. I prefer the former.
     
  8. JWPlatt

    JWPlatt Commodore Commodore

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    Yes. It's call lack of vision, or as in my previous message, a selfish agenda that does not put the customer first to succeed on those terms.

    Snark.

    Helpful without the snark. That's how it's done.
     
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  9. Sakonna

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    So JWPlatt, I think it's been about a year-ish now I've seen you posting again and again that the episodes are going to expire, whistling past the multiple confirmations that this is not what CBSAA is doing, and I'm curious: at what point will you admit the episodes are not expiring? When they put up episode 6 next week and episode 1 is still there, will that be the proof? Or will it just transition into a week-to-week insistence that the next episode is going to expire?
     
  10. fireproof78

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    Given how much money they are putting in to it, I would say they are taking a big risk, so I don't fault them for being a little selfish, any more than I would fault anyone else with their money being cautious.
    No, genuine confusion to the question.
     
  11. urbandefault

    urbandefault Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I prefer snark, tongue firmly planted in cheek. Unfortunately, a lot of folks don't appreciate the effort.

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  12. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Do you prefer it by default? ;)

    I'll show myself out...
     
  13. XCV330

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    I recall reading that subscribers would be able to watch every episode of star trek, ever. That seems to include DSC
     
  14. JWPlatt

    JWPlatt Commodore Commodore

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    When I see the policy stated directly by CBS or, as you say, empirically observed. I'm a scientist. It's not a matter of admission, but of observable evidence in support.

    Of observing the evidence, the library of CBS series on CBSAA is seriously lacking in support of their full library and back seasons, but that only implies how they'll handle Discovery - not the actual outcome. They do seem to have Trek well-covered.
     
  15. JWPlatt

    JWPlatt Commodore Commodore

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    I always appreciate follow-ups to provide clarity, so here's something that might help:

    I cancelled my CBS All Access, as anyone here tracking my discussions, such as yourself, knew I would. I chose "other" on the list of reasons on their cancellation page and wrote down essentially what I've been writing here in various discussions. It was too long and the cancellation system only told me that while summarily closing the page without a chance to edit it. So I sent a copy of the full text to customer support. Their reply was actually a good one. I'm impressed that even if they're pulling from script, it was tailored to my complaints. And, in fact, they anticipated the complaint I made here that they would only carry the most recent five episodes. To witt:

    My letter:
    CBS response:
    You might want to note that the CBS Support Team did not use Star Trek Discovery as an example of one for which they "now have rights to the entire current season stacked." Go figure. So what does that omission mean? It's not proof either way of how many episodes will be available although, obviously, we have eight episodes available right now. The "trailing five episodes" apparently at least came from early announcements about the subscription model related to free trials.
     
  16. cylkoth

    cylkoth Commodore Commodore

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    They did not use DISC as and an example because DISC does not AIR ON THE CBS BROADCAST NETWORK. Stacking rights-or the availability of the last 5 episodes shown on the broadcast network, is a distribution limit imposed by the studios owning the shows, and is reserved entirely for weekly series running on broadcast-and cable networks. This does not apply to either DISC or The Good Wife All Access spin-off, The Good Fight.
     
  17. Sakonna

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    I am astounded by that response from CBSAA! That is so specific and detailed, I would have expected a much more generic communication. Here's a sentence I can't remember saying in years/decades: good job from the customer service department!

    It means they are referring to shows they have licensed from outside production companies, which does not describe Discovery.

    "Trailing five episodes" is common terminology. For deals between streaming services and outside production companies. Which, again, has nothing to do with the relationship of Discovery and CBSAA.

    But I'll give you this, you are committed to finding ways to keep this going! When Season 2 is about to premiere, let me know if you're still watching them to see if that's the moment they pull down season one. :bolian:
     
  18. JWPlatt

    JWPlatt Commodore Commodore

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    Yes, the Customer Service message is one of the more satisfying I've received, including such things as the candid, perhaps even compassionate, "...but they are commercials, none the less" despite knowing it would not convince me to resubscribe. And it left me with more understanding of the details and less enmity.

    Heh, I don't think they'll pull season one, and retaining all seasons is a good bet, judging by the other Trek series. Originally, I expected the "trailing five," but then restore all of season one at the outset of season two as motivation to stay subscribed during season one. That's not turning out to be true, which is also less cynical than I expected from corporate suits.
     
  19. MvRojo

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    Netflix's interface hasn't always been great. It had prior iterations that weren't as great.