The Inhumans Marvel/IMAX

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  1. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    If it were only this show that did it, maybe. But many shows do it, even solid hits with loyal audiences.
     
  2. dahj

    dahj Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Well yeah, it's a common marketing strategy.
    For the loyal fans fewer means more exclusive, which also works for building hype.

    In the end it's essentially the same principle as to why things cost $2.99 and not $3.
     
  3. Christopher

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    I don't see how that's the same thing at all. That's to trick people into thinking the price is lower than it is so they'll be more likely to buy. It's got nothing to do with being "exclusive." Surely "exclusive" would suggest something more expensive and harder to obtain, which is just the opposite.
     
  4. dahj

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    The intent in both cases is to leave the impression that the thing they're selling has more value.
     
  5. Christopher

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    Yeah, but how does confusing people about how soon the season finale is do that? I could get it if the goal was to make it sound more urgent, more imminent, and I guess you could twist words enough to call that "more value," but I think it's a really weak analogy.
     
  6. dahj

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    The goal isn't to sell the finale, it's to sell the next episode.
    "Only two more(smallprint plus finale), be sure to stay tuned in(if you love it), or might as well stay(if you're iffy about it)." ;)
     
  7. kitik

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    Wow, that was an actual good episode.

    Really liked all the Karnak parts. If we all voted right now about having to watch a solo Inhuman show, I think most of us would vote for 13 solo episodes of Karnak, right? Sitting through 22 epsidoes of just Gorgon, Medusa, or Crystal would be a challenge.

    Really odd ending though, and it seems like they simply decided to get rid of two characters in the quickest way possible. One person literally just falls over dead, and another, after having what was surely the most traumatic day of her life, decides its time for her to leave Karnak and all his friends. Go figure.

    I suppose its good they finally started pointing out the problems we (and all the Iother Inhumans) have been complaining about regarding the setup of Inhuman society. A bit blunt and overly simplistic, but at least we'll be able to root for the royal family in the last 3 episodes.

    So should I assume that yet another mention of that rocket to the moon is a setup for a second season storyline that will likely never exist? (Though now that I type it out I suppose AOS could possibly pick that up and run with it.)
     
  8. Christopher

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    I dunno... so far Gorgon's the one who comes off as the most likeable. I'm not entirely sold on Karnak, though I'm not sure how much of that is Leung's performance and how much is the writing. I can see the potential of the character, but the execution feels wanting. Maybe it's that I feel a character as calculating and meticulous as Karnak should have more intensity and edge, more of a sense of keen alertness and constant scrutiny, like Sherlock Holmes. Leung just seems too laid back.
     
  9. kitik

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    Gorgon's likeable, but he needs Karnak's help 38% of the time.
     
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  10. cylkoth

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    Was he concussed from his fall upon arriving on Earth? The writing keeps hinting-or perhaps it's just me inferring, that his abilities are somehow impaired. But they never come out and say it. He keeps saying (to humans that don't know his gift), that he's having difficulties and there never is any follow through.
     
  11. JD

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    That's been my impression.
    Have we heard anything about the rating how (un)likely a second season is at this point?
    I was thinking, if this doesn't come back, maybe they could just do a different miniseries each season at this point. We got Inhumans this year, so next year we could get... I don't know, Moon Knight or Blade , and then maybe somebody like Howard The Duck or She-Hulk the year after that. It would also be a chance to give us some solo stories for spin-off characters from AoS, like Ghost Rider or Deathlok.
     
  12. Christopher

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    Yes, and I thought of that, but we also saw flashbacks of him on Attilan, and he wasn't significantly different in his performance there.
     
  13. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    Gorgon? I don't find anything terribly likable about a character who's written as being so stupid that somebody else has to remind him to breathe.

    Speaking of breathing, one of the areas that the show hasn't dealt with is the reason that the Inhumans moved to the Moon in the comics...they had issues breathing polluted air. That should be all the more of a problem for this version, since these guys come from a society that's been living in an artificial environment for thousands of years.

    Not to mention bugs. Karnak was shown drinking water out of a stream early on...that's a bad idea for us, never mind people who may have even less immunities to what's in untreated water than we do.
     
  14. Christopher

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    Of all the Royals, he's the one who showed the most compassion for others early on. I liked the way he bonded with the surfers/survivalists/whatever and felt responsible for their safety. Also, the actor is probably the most likeable and charismatic one of the bunch.


    Except that's not the reason the MCU's Inhumans left Earth, because they left millennia ago, long before there was polluted air. So that may not be an issue for them.
     
  15. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    When you're that dependent on others to tell you what to do, beggars can't be choosers.

    I wasn't saying that it was.
    Which is why it should be an even bigger problem for them...they've been born and bred in an artificial environment and should have even bigger issues acclimating to our environment than their comic book counterparts did.
     
  16. Turtletrekker

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    Perhaps they moved to the moon to hide from Hive.
     
  17. Christopher

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    The way a character is written can be improved. I like the actor, and I think his performance and charm keep Gorgon from coming off as badly as he might in scenes like the Apollo-flag flashbacks. (Honestly, I think it was the writers that were stupid there, not the character.) And I don't know why you're focusing so exclusively on his intelligence as the only consideration that matters. As I said, I like his compassion and his leadership. He showed in earlier episodes that he's a good leader, the kind who really cares about the people under his command. That's an admirable trait, and one that the other Royals have not been too successful in demonstrating.


    I wonder about that, though. Is it really possible to "acclimate" to air pollution? Sure, not having immunity to viruses or bacteria makes sense, but can you develop an immunity to things like smog or carbon monoxide? Aren't they pretty much bad for everyone, regardless of past exposure?

    Anyway, if pollution is an issue for them, then it's lucky they landed in Hawai'i, because it has the best air quality of any U.S. state by a good margin.
     
  18. Mr. Adventure

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    Gorgon's story is the least interesting, Dudebro falls in with pack of Dudebros who completely have his back. And is there anything more to his backstory than screwing around with moon landings?
     
  19. Christopher

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    I never said I liked those aspects of his story. I said I liked the actor and the compassion and camaraderie the character showed. All the characters have flaws with the way they and their stories are written, but Eme Ikwuakor does a good job of improving on it, more so than the other actors seem to be doing. Sometimes a good performance can elevate a weakly written character.

    Although I do find it bothersome that the show's attempt at diverse casting ended up playing into hoary ethnic stereotypes -- the big dumb tough guy is black and the super-smart, calculating intellectual is Asian. But both actors do a good job of not playing into those stereotypes. In particular, Ikwuakor makes Gorgon easygoing and levelheaded rather than angry and brutish, and regardless of how the part is written, he gives it an air of thoughtfulness.
     
  20. Reverend

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    Then who imprisoned him? No, I think it more likely they were afraid of the Kree returning and wiping them out. I mean it's not as if Humans would have been much of a threat back then and a retro-reflective dome seems a bit excessive if one's opponents are a bunch of stone to bronze age tribes with no access to telescopes. Of course if being seen from the surface as the only concern, then simply building on the far side of the moon would have been simpler.

    My problem with the premise is why is the city and it's population so small after all this time? Hell, why haven't they gone to Mars or Venus? What the hell is so special about that crater?