Scotty & Worf Squaring Off

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by Mojochi, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. Gary7

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    I liked this episode a lot, because it was one of those few times original TOS characters had a prominent role. However, I did have some problems with it. Scotty came across to me as too needy and the whole "padding of estimates for the captain" thing was overdone.

    Frankly, the fact that Scotty was rescued and brought back to life some 80 years later makes him a human time capsule. I would think the Federation would extend a hearty invitation to him, for a full debriefing and perhaps the opportunity to give some speeches about his time aboard the early USS Enterprise. Instead, he gets a shuttle and is left to depart with no indication of where he's going (he decided not to go to the Norpin Colony). Previously, he WAS heading to retirement... why wouldn't he continue to do so? It's not like the transporter buffer rejuvenated him. Or perhaps, his experience with Geordi in engineering ignited his explorer spirit. Whatever the case, I wish they'd set it up as more celebratory, rather than a "cast off." You can bet ANYTHING that if it were Captain Kirk, this would be the case!
     
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  2. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Admiral Admiral

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    I disagree with that assessment. While especially DS9 but also sometimes in TNG we see that not all prejudice has gone away, we also see that people have learned to critically observe their prejudice and try to move past it rather than entrenching themselves in it. Sisko, for example, critically observes his prejudice against Ferengi and moves past it to support Nog.
     
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  3. Mojochi

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    Exactly. This is Star Trek. If there is prejudice, especially among principal characters, it's almost universally addressed & progress is made. Scotty not being able to move on from Klingon biases at the end, after having met Worf, of all Klingons, just seems at the very least a missed opportunity, & at most un-Trek-like
     
  4. Blooded

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    Scotty came from a time when Starfleet's relationship with the Klingon's was much more aggressive (and that was before Discovery retrospectively added in much more conflict between the two, also), and he himself was quite close to things such as his Kirk's son being murdered by them, ship having to be destroyed due to them, etc. I don't think a short stay on the D would give him anywhere near the amount of time required to learn to trust Worf.
     
  5. Vger23

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    Scotty would kick Worf's ass up and down
     
  6. Mojochi

    Mojochi Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    After having just rewatched Family, I'm pretty sure Worf's Human dad IS Scotty, just substitute Russian for Scottish
     
  7. Ragnarok

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    Its important to remember that Scotty was a "man out of time". You wouldn't expect an American army officer from WW2 to act the exact same way as an American army officer from 2017. People change over generations.