The least disliked episode of TNG - Season One

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  1. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    This is a game that we play every few years or so, and it's generally a lot of fun, providing a chance to mentally revisit those episodes you may not have thought about in a while. With that in mind, why not play again?

    So, here's the game. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. I'll provide a list of the episodes for each season and you need to eliminate your least favorite or the one you deem the 'worst.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed. Finally, leave at least 2 eliminations by other posters before you eliminate another episode.

    No tactical voting! You cannot remove an episode because you feel they would threaten your preferred episode's chance to win.
    Pretty simple. Enjoy! :bolian:

    Hall of Champions
    2011 - The Best of Both Worlds (I)
    2013 - The Measure of a Man
    2015 - All Good Things...
    2017 -


    Season One

    Encounter at Farpoint
    The Naked Now
    Code of Honor
    The Last Outpost
    Where No Man Has Gone Before
    Lonely Among Us
    Justice
    The Battle
    Hide and Q
    Haven
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    Angel One
    11001001
    Too Short a Season
    When the Bough Breaks
    Home Soil
    Coming of Age
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
  2. Sakonna

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    I was just posting in another thread about how I think Code Of Honor is the worst episode of the series, so I'll start by taking that one off. So racist! And also kind of a dull story. And I'm galled by the lack of imagination that comes up with Yareena as the name of Yar's rival. ("Code Of Honor" was also one of the first eps I ever saw, after discovering the show during season 5 and immediately wanting to see as much of it as possible. I was too young and naive then to grasp how offensive it was)

    Encounter at Farpoint
    The Naked Now
    The Last Outpost
    Where No Man Has Gone Before
    Lonely Among Us
    Justice
    The Battle
    Hide and Q
    Haven
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    Angel One
    11001001
    Too Short a Season
    When the Bough Breaks
    Home Soil
    Coming of Age
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
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  3. Qonundrum

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    "Justice". A great idea turned into a 40 minute mindless wasteoftimewank, Wesley's most infamous bit of dialogue is given (about Starfleet won't lie), the prime directive stuff is shoved to the side at the end (it's virtually antithetical to the show, complete with Picard's cheap and hollow speech!!), and the aliens of the week are no less boring or racist (they're all deliberately cast as being blond hair/blue eye).


    Encounter at Farpoint
    The Naked Now
    The Last Outpost
    Where No Man Has Gone Before
    Lonely Among Us
    The Battle
    Hide and Q
    Haven
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    Angel One
    11001001
    Too Short a Season
    When the Bough Breaks
    Home Soil
    Coming of Age
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
  4. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'll get rid of The Last Outpost for its cringeworthy planet scenes and embarrassing portrayal of the Ferengi. It took until DS9 before the Ferengi had any semblance of credibility or interest left after this one...

    Encounter at Farpoint
    The Naked Now
    Where No Man Has Gone Before
    Lonely Among Us
    The Battle
    Hide and Q
    Haven
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    Angel One
    11001001
    Too Short a Season
    When the Bough Breaks
    Home Soil
    Coming of Age
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
  5. Captain of the USS Averof

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    The Naked Now. A remake of an old TOS episode as the new show’s second episode? Give me a break! And some of the performances are really cringeworthy bad!

    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No Man Has Gone Before
    Lonely Among Us
    The Battle
    Hide and Q
    Haven
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    Angel One
    11001001
    Too Short a Season
    When the Bough Breaks
    Home Soil
    Coming of Age
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
  6. Sakonna

    Sakonna Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Coming Of Age This is just a jumble of WTF moments for me, and I don't understand why they thought it was a good idea to do so many Wesley (and Riker) stories about how that character should be leaving the Enterprise. Don't hang a lantern on that, show! The stolen-shuttle plot is undercooked. Sometimes the Remmick thread seems OK, but I think that's really a retroactive association with "Conspiracy" elevating it -- as it's own piece here, I do not care for it. But most of all, I hate the depiction of the Academy admissions process, everything about it is either nonsensical or contrived.

    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No Man Has Gone Before
    Lonely Among Us
    The Battle
    Hide and Q
    Haven
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    Angel One
    11001001
    Too Short a Season
    When the Bough Breaks
    Home Soil
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
  7. BigDaveX

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    Angel One; the story as a whole is a bore, any message that might be there is muddled to the point of incoherence, the "alien virus" suplot has absolutely no purpose, and the outfit that Riker wears... just, no.

    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No Man Has Gone Before
    Lonely Among Us
    The Battle
    Hide and Q
    Haven
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    11001001
    Too Short a Season
    When the Bough Breaks
    Home Soil
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
  8. Maurice

    Maurice Snagglepussed Admiral

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    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No Man Has Gone Before
    The Battle
    Hide and Q
    Haven
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    11001001
    Too Short a Season
    When the Bough Breaks
    Home Soil
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone

    Lonely Among Us for being basically rubbish.
     
  9. Mojochi

    Mojochi Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Knocking off When the Bough Breaks. Hamfisted, overly simplistic nonsense with a whole lot of annoying children

    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No Man Has Gone Before
    The Battle
    Hide and Q
    Haven
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    11001001
    Too Short a Season
    Home Soil
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
  10. Captain of the USS Averof

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    Too Short a Season has left the building. Clayton Rohner playing an old admiral with all that bad aging makeup. Ugh.

    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No One Has Gone Before
    The Battle
    Hide and Q
    Haven
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    11001001
    Home Soil
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
  11. Sakonna

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    "Worf, is this your idea of sex?" Animal things. "Hey Wes -- not bad." Q as Three Snakes Growing Out Of A Light Ball. "When one is in the penalty box, tears are permitted." And probably one of the cheapest planet sets they ever threw together. It's a mess all around -- I'm tossing Hide And Q

    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No One Has Gone Before
    The Battle
    Haven
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    11001001
    Home Soil
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
  12. Armus

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    Home Soil. One of the few first season episodes I can't motivate myself to rewatch. Probably saw it once in syndication 25 years ago.
    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No One Has Gone Before
    The Battle
    Haven
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    11001001
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
    Edited-by-MutaiSho-Rin-to-restore-the-list
     
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  13. BigDaveX

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    Haven. A largely forgettable story overall, and the writing staff really, really didn't have Lwaxana Troi's character down yet.

    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No One Has Gone Before
    The Battle
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    11001001
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
  14. BlueStuff

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    The Battle is done. I always find it boring, and the Ferengi simply aren't credible as villains in the way the writers intend here.

    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No One Has Gone Before
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    11001001
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    We'll Always Have Paris
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
  15. Myko

    Myko Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    We Wont Have Paris Much Longer, just very dull.

    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No One Has Gone Before
    The Big Goodbye
    Datalore
    11001001
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Skin of Evil
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
  16. JayTheTrekkie

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    The Big Goodbye is a least favorite. Didn't find it interesting to watch.
     
  17. BigDaveX

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    Skin of Evil is now gone the way of Lt. Yar. Sorry, but I think the whole "meaningless death" idea was just a flat-out horrible concept. There's a good reason why it's generally expected (or at least, was expected at the time) that major characters in an action-adventure TV series go out with a memorable death, ideally involving them making the ultimate sacrifice.

    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No One Has Gone Before
    Datalore
    11001001
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Symbiosis
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
  18. Sakonna

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    It's a tough call between Datalore and Symbiosis, but Datalore at least succeeds as comedy. Symbiosis is just dull. The only thing I -- enjoy isn't the right word -- but the only thing that touches me about the episode is seeing Merritt Butrick's guest performance, with his death from AIDS imminent, and reflecting back on what those times were like. His presence is the only thing that gives this ep any weight it has.

    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No One Has Gone Before
    Datalore
    11001001
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Conspiracy
    The Neutral Zone
     
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  19. Mojochi

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    I'm going to sack The Neutral Zone. It's by no means a bad episode, but there's a lot that misses about it, The reintroduction of the Romulans falls kind of flat. That the ominous tech scooping attacks never again get touched on, in any significant way, leaves the episode seeming pointless, & the ancient Humans are not enough to sustain the rest of the episode. In fact, they are pretty much all, in some manner or another... annoying. The mixture of all these elements together is very odd indeed

    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No One Has Gone Before
    Datalore
    11001001
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Conspiracy
     
  20. BlueStuff

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    Varying degrees of "not bad" left but I'll boot Encounter at Farpoint for the manskirts.

    Where No One Has Gone Before
    Datalore
    11001001
    Heart of Glory
    The Arsenal of Freedom
    Conspiracy