Spoilers Lucifer - Season 3

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  1. spinnerlys

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    Thanks for the information, didn't know that. Family comes first.
     
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  3. JD

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    Well, there goes my theory that he was Tom Welling's character. When a mysterious new enemy pops up at the same time as a new good guy, I always suspect the new guy.
    As for Welling's character being an ass,
    we already know he teams up with Lucifer to go after The Sinnerman, so I'm assuming he'll get nicer as we go on.
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    They do show her fighting a couple of guys in the season trailer, so I'm assuming she'll pop back up fairly soon. The first trailers for a season usually just cover the first handful of episodes.
     
  4. Gov Kodos

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    I think that's episode three if I'm remembering rightly?
     
  5. spinnerlys

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    The network also did keep back four episodes of the second season and put them into the third season, thus Lesley-Ann Brandt might show up in those first four episodes, except the premiere of course.
     
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    I'm surprised they did that in such an arc heavy show. Were these more standalone episodes that didn't involve "Mom", or did they add and/or remove scenes that tied into with specific arcs?
     
  8. spinnerlys

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    I have no information about that.
     
  9. Christopher

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    I'm going strictly on memory here, so I could be wrong, but as I recall:

    The previous season was plotted out with the assumption that they'd have a certain number of episodes. Later on, the show was doing well enough that FOX ordered an additional four episodes. Rather than try to pad out their arc to make it last longer, they let it play out at its originally planned length and just appended the extra four episodes after its climax. And then, they and the network came to the decision that it would be better to break the season at the originally planned point and save the extra four episodes for the start of the following season instead.
     
  10. JD

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    Tonight's episode:
     
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    Mazikeen gets her own episode essentially... and it was AMAZING!!! I loved her before this episode aired, but after this week's episode I now want to be Mr Mazikeen Smith
     
  12. Gov Kodos

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    That file cabinet, the Sinnerman knows more than the average criminal genius. I do hope Gaudium shows up.
     
  13. JD

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    That was a fun one.
    Maze has been one of my favorite characters, so I loved seeing her get an episode focused so much on her.
    It end up being pretty much completely stand alone, but that was fine.
    Her relationship with her bounty was fun.
    I loved Dan showing up to help her.
     
  14. Christopher

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    Are we sure that's who it is? This is apparently the first of the four extra, standalone episodes they shot at the end of last season and are now seeding into this one. I'd imagine that ending was conceived as some deliberately vague hook that they could potentially tie into some future storyline. Although it seems plausible that they'd fold it into the "Sinnerman" thing.


    It's kind of weird in a modern show to see an episode that doesn't have any overt ties to a larger story arc, that's just a self-contained story where the only ongoing threads that are touched on are character arcs, and even those are more about reaffirming the status quo than changing it. But it's actually kind of refreshing. It's nice to see a story that's just about itself and doesn't have to be burdened with advancing some longer game. It let them cut loose and do something really fun and zany and formula-breaking, almost a mini-movie.

    It looks like the next two weeks are third-season episodes getting back to the main plot threads, though; the other three standalones will apparently be spread out throughout the season.
     
  15. kitik

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    Interesting that we're going to have a villain who is well aware of just who Lucifer and the gang are.
     
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    Watching Trixie with Maze, I'm just imagine what happens the day Decker finds out her true nature. She'll probably freak out, Trixie will just giggle and think it's cool.
     
  17. Borgminister

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    Still entertaining, if not deep. :)
     
  18. Velocity

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    Maze is evolving. She actually cares about several humans and admits it to herself. I bet she has a soul now or is on the way to having one.
     
  19. Christopher

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    The problem with talking about souls is that there's no clear, universal definition for what one actually is. In a fantasy context, I guess it depends on what rules that particular universe has defined for them. This episode seemed to indicate that it's a species thing -- humans (and apparently angels) have souls, demons don't. Lucifer said so, and he should have a pretty definitive understanding of how souls work, given that he spent millennia in charge of their punishment. So that suggests a soul isn't something a demon can grow, any more than a human can grow wings. While a demon might care about people, that would just make her a demon who cares.

    Of course, "Dad" works in mysterious ways, and could presumably choose to ensoul Maze if he wanted to, but would he want to? Or maybe souls are contagious? If you hang around humans too long and get emotionally/spiritually attached to them, you can "catch" a soul from them through some sort of spiritual osmosis? There are some who believe you put a bit of your soul into anything you create; I imagine it could also be believed that you share a bit of your soul with anything or anyone you love. Which might be where the concept of "soul mates" came from.

    Or maybe Maze just needs to listen to enough James Brown and Aretha Franklin records?
     
  20. Gov Kodos

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    That would be a kick. I wonder if it would piss her off to feel responsible for her own soul?