Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x02 - "Battle at the Binary Stars"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Sep 24, 2017.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Awesome!

    16.7%
  2. 9

    15.4%
  3. 8

    27.9%
  4. 7

    14.7%
  5. 6

    9.3%
  6. 5

    5.1%
  7. 4

    2.6%
  8. 3

    3.8%
  9. 2

    1.9%
  10. 1 - Terrible!

    2.6%
  1. LocutusCrusher

    LocutusCrusher Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    I'm actually wondering if Lorca could be Voq…

    I definitely agree about Georgiou. I don't think we've seen the last of her. Chronologically, even.
     
  2. Campe

    Campe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Definitely thought about Lorca too but Tyler seems to be the perfect fit. POW. Just came back. PTSD. Develops relationship with Burnham. Perfect opportunity for betrayal of our lead.
     
  3. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Making sure their teeth stay in.
     
  4. EnderAKH

    EnderAKH Commodore Premium Member

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    I also loved the dynamic between Burnham, Saru and Georgiou. Between Burnham's quasi-Vulcanism, Saru's survival pragmatism and Georgiou's command experience, I hope we get more flashbacks to that as we move forward. They had great chemistry together as a command team.

    It's entirely possible I am getting more sensitive to is as I get older, and I just want to enjoy things. Craig Mazin has a thing he's been trying called Positive Moviegoing, and it is kind of where my headspace is at lately:
     
  5. KirkusOveractus

    KirkusOveractus Commodore Commodore

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    I'm fighting a sinus infection, so I'll write more later about these episodes, but has anyone addressed (SPOILER)


    Why there were no Connies in the Starfleet ships coming for backup? This is a big combat situation. Why no Heavy Cruisers?
     
  6. Michael

    Michael Good Bad Influence Moderator

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    Because it would be distracting?
     
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  7. SpocksOddSocks

    SpocksOddSocks Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I give both episodes a 7. I liked them, but had more issues than I'd hoped.There's not really anything for me to add that others haven't already said but I'm in the following camps:

    I really liked C3PO Saru, and was surprised about this (seemed daft in the trailers).

    I felt the life sentence seemed a little too harsh, and the shady trial rather dodgy. It seems to me like an intentional hiding of who was there, with plans of an eventual reveal.

    I really didn't like the remote connection between Sarek and Michael... I thought it was a fine idea, IF it was just part of him left behind that was communicating, but the suggestion that it took a lot out of him was suggesting a direct communication. At the moment, I'm still hoping that a suggestion is all it is, and that is only a remnant that is communicating with her/her own mind's coping mechanism.
     
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  8. Campe

    Campe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    There are 12 Connies at the time of TOS, probably fewer in 2256. Space is a big place. They were all the only ship... in other sectors. :p
     
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  9. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Also, I'm fairly confident they're saving that one for a special occasion.
     
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  10. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    1) They were in the Laurentian System
    2) Starfleet Regulations limit the Heavy Cruisers to one per quadrant.
     
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  11. Jadeb

    Jadeb Commodore Commodore

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    This one was much better than the first, and that was frustrating. If they'd added the first 10 minutes of this one to the end of the previous, the episode CBS broadcast to attract new audiences might actually have done so. Splitting them like they did just seems incompetent. I'm kinda shocked CBS didn't crack the whip and tell the production team to devise an introduction that could be compelling in the available airtime.
    That said, even if you look at the first two episodes as one story, it's still a mess. Michael's character is all over the place, to the point that she seems desperately in need of mental help. Having her murder the Klingon is a questionable defining act for your series lead, especially when she seems to default to mutiny when disagreeing with her superior. I liked SMG, but I'm not sure they can craft a story for her character that I will find believable and compelling, short of having her shoot Captain Lorca dead and become a space pirate.
    The preview, at least, had my interest. It's the main thing keeping me going, because the two things I like least -- the tiresome Klingons and ghost daddy Sarek -- seem to be the bread and butter of the show.
    Next week will be make or break for me.
     
  12. Blamo

    Blamo Commodore Commodore

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    Because the actor was wearing fake teeth and was having to spout a lot of alien gobbledygook.
     
  13. Fateor

    Fateor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Because the producers were idiots and had the bright idea to combin full facial prosthetics, false teeth, and a completely new language. And then when that obviously didn't work refused to back down into something sensible.
     
  14. Hey Missy

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    It must be the prosthetics because previous actors playing Klingons had no problem rambling off Klingonese (even with those crazy fangs in their mouths, unless the style of their teeth changed as well).
     
  15. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    I've noticed a few actors sounding a bit garbled in the past. Some that played Ferengi as well.
     
  16. RobertCardassian

    RobertCardassian Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Yeoh should have been the main captain. I like her much more than Isaac.

    Still can't believe they killed her this early. She was a major selling point for me. Her and Sonnequa are great. Really am not digging the stupid orange alien (Doug Jones) and the AWFUL new purple sparkly Klingons
     
  17. dahj

    dahj Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Because. Kirk... Stole... All.Their... Punctuation.
     
  18. RobertCardassian

    RobertCardassian Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I would have much preferred Isaac as her early mentor, and then Yeoh as the captain giving her a second chance
     
  19. !LuvKJ

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    Putting a big spoiler right in the title the day after it airs?
     
  20. Noname Given

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    Because every one of the actors was mouthing the lines phonetically - and concentrating so much on that they really couldn't act it.

    None nearby - this was on the far border of Federation space - they sent what was in the vicinity.