The Punisher-- Marvel/Netflix

It doesn't matter. Different people will react differently to the same tragedy -- some positively, others negatively. People who act out destructively love to make the excuse that anyone would've done the same, but that's just a lie they tell themselves to avoid admitting their culpability for their own choices. A lot of superheroes have lost their spouses, and some have lost children, but they haven't all become ruthless murderers.

Anyway, I don't think you can directly compare the two. For an adult, maybe, losing one's parents isn't as bad as losing a spouse or a child, because by that age you've had time to adjust to the fact that it would eventually happen and have moved on to the point that you have other, more indispensable ties to your spouse and children. But for a 9- or 10-year-old kid to lose his parents is to lose his whole world. Believe me, losing my mother when I was 7 screwed up my life far, far worse than losing my father when I was 42.

 

Concerning the Punisher quote.. i can't exactly remember if it was just a line for him to goad Murdock or if he did some research and knew that Murdock/Daredevil sometimes goes overboard when he fights criminals, especially those who are at the lowest rung (child molesters, rapists and such). So Daredevil has that struggle within him and has to constantly fight to keep himself from slipping further down.. i wonder if Castle picked up on that or as Christopher said just because he gave in to his destructive nature and assumes everybody will too.

 

Just saw a notice on marvel.com that they will not be promoting The Punisher at all this weekend at NYCC. (Due to Las Vegas shootings.)

With the non-reveal of the release date, I have to wonder if Netflix and Marvel are changing the actual release date for the show too.

 

The thing is, there are mass shootings in this country virtually every day. It's become so numbingly routine that only the biggest ones get national coverage anymore. So will there ever be a "safe" time to release it? Frankly, I've felt all along that doing this series at all was a bad idea in the current cultural climate. Even if the show paints Castle as a dark, troubled figure whose use of violence does more harm than good, there will still be people who take the wrong message from it.

 

You think they were tying it in with Veteran's Day? That's as awkward as the shooting in my mind.

 

Marvel and Netflix have also cancelled a Paris event...

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/10/05/netflix-marvel-cancel-punisher-event-las-vegas-tragedy/

 

Did the other shows have premiers like this? Or did they oddly just save these for thr crazy murderer?

 

Marvel may have canceled their Punisher event for NYCC, but there are similar events scheduled for Agents of Shield and Runaways. They're standard promotional events.

 

I thought a PTSD suffering vet using his military training and weapons in a murderous vigilante crusade might not be the most desired role model for Veteran's Day.

 

Tragic or not, he's the worst role model anybody could have with none of his actions being appropriate.

Unless the trailers lied, he got help, took a quiet desk job during the day and volunteered to feed the homeless at night or something a little more noble than what was shown.

 

Well, and sometimes, as in Daredevil S2, he shoots up hospital hallways full of civilians running away from him in mortal terror... but Karen kinda had a crush on him, so I suppose that makes it okay?

 

Just rewatched the scene (it's been a long time since i've seen S2 but i believe it's the only hospital scene).. cop tries to stop Castle with a gun, he disarms him, punches him out and throws the gun the garbage.

He takes out his shotgun and shoots the place up a bit including some windows, some of these shots are close to people but then again he's an experienced Special Forces operator so one can assume he knows how to fire closely and not hit anything he doesn't want to hit.

Karen flees with the bad guy and he shoots after them also risking to hit Karen but then in his own moral code Karen is aiding a criminial so he already passed judgement and is ok with it if Karen gets wounded/killed alongside the bad guy.

 

That's the excuse he gives Karen later, and it's bullshit. Even elite soldiers are not that one mutant from X-Men Origins: Wolverine whose superpower is perfect aim. People are running around, and Castle himself is moving, thus everyone in his line of sight when he pulls the trigger are in mortal danger - not to mention the obvious fact that the civilians he's putting in mortal fear have no idea how "principled" or accomplished a marksman he may be.

 

Well hey, at least they got the "blind people with radar vision" and "undead ninja" stuff scientifically accurate. So the show's not *totally* unrealistic!

 

Sure, but those things don't casually kill people.