David Gerrold was not invited to the premiere. Seems unhappy about it.

Then you would have just said "I think that's an achievement". But you went further and decided to add the age old, tedious "more than others have done" retort. I suppose you're going to say now that it wasn't directed at anyone here, yes?

 

It is one. It is also one relevant to the.. thread topic.

You know (my opinion), most people are ordinary, just getting by. That is just my view and by all means if it doesn't apply to individuals reading then it doesn't apply.

 

Gerrold's day in the sun has long passed. He helped that along by aligning himself with a failed "fan" production that was intended to generate profit from the Trek IP, and when a lawsuit was filed, dug in his heels in favor of the losing party. Oh, except for the "no dog in this fight" social media post that was contrary to every action he took before and after. The internet is an unforgiving bitch.

He has no reason to complain. He made his bed, now he has to lie in it.

 

Feel free to take any interpretation you are comfortable with.

 

That's a bit of a cowardly response. You made the comment, directly in response to mine. Why can't I ask you what you meant by it?

 

I don't want to belabour it. I wrote this: "One notable episode is more than most people will ever achieve."

Simple statement.

 

Yes, and you have both refused to answer what you consider to be your definition of achievement and who you were targetting with "most people".

 

Gerrold created an element (Tribbles) that are still being used fifty years later. If I did that, I would probably consider it an achievement.

 

I would too.

 

Afraid not.

Neil

 

But, it is a nebulous statement and one that makes little sense in the context of this thread and the general population. It's confusing when its just written off when asked to be further defined for clarification on the terms. Achievement can be measured in a wide variety of ways, and the writing of a Star Trek show episode, regardless of reknown, as a benchmark is a strange one to me.

Is it an "achievement?" Certainly. But, why is it one that "most people" would want to aspire to is my question? That's the confusion as to why it is an achievement for "most people" especially considering that it isn't something you, yourself, don't want to strive towards.

Possible miscommunication, but that's why I'm asking for clarification. It feels like a standard that is being applied to "most people" and, by extension, those people are not achieving.

 

You're reading too much into a statement. It is an achievement and it is more than than most people will achieve.

 

Gerrold created Jack Squat. Go read Robert Heinlein's "The Rolling Stones" and then tell me what Gerrold created. He's lucky he wasn't sued. Heinlein took no offense and was a gentleman about it.

 

Didn't Heinlein waiver any rights? And are you sure Gerrold created Jack Squat??

 

I am now longing for the missed opportunty for The Adventures of Jack Squat.

Kor

 

He was going to be a recurring character in the 4th season.

 

And nothing of value was lost.

 

Still a nebulous statement that makes no sense.

I believe he did, and regretted it.

 

'Heinlein asking only for an autographed copy of the script.. '

Did he regret it?

 

Heinlein later regretted allowing the "nice kid" off the hook for lifting his flatcats.

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