My Grandma mistook "The Orville" for a new "Star Trek" show

Granted but you just described EVERY generation. Except maybe the yuppies. They really did seem to have it for society.

Jason

 

That's because while human welfare has improved, in general, rights are still hard fought and hard won.

 

Pretty good experiment. Roughly 50% arguing on "old people's" side and 50% on "young people's".
Apologies, but I couldn't let a comment that "old people are stupid" go past without a countering ageism comment of my own.

 

The winking smiley is often used to indicate humor. In this specific case, irony.

 

Yeah I get you, but I wonder if a similarly structured post but with racism or sexism, instead of ageism would be okay???

 

I'm sure I don't know. Maybe you should make a poll.

 

A lot of millennials are actually working weekends and not taking vacations because they're worried about the stereotype of the lazy millennial.

If some of them don't know how to fix their own sink, perhaps it's because their parents cut all the funding to their schools and they lost shop class. Not to mention spending ever day until their 18th birthday hovering over them, then shoving them out the door or to college being surprised when they can't act as fully independent adults all at once.

 

My 11 year old son made an astute observation as well: "Woof!" Then he went to Hulu to look at Family Guy episodes. That won't fork for Discovery.

 

My mother thought "Smallville" was about tiny people. Another relative (who shall go nameless) spent all of GODZILLA waiting for a giant gorilla to show up, not knowing that Godzilla and King Kong were not the same thing. A next-door neighbor picked up THE GREEN HORNET thinking it was GREEN LANTERN. And I once met someone--a smart, talented professional, knowledgeable in her field--who didn't realize that the FLASH and FLASH GORDON were not the same thing . . . .

As noted, if you don't care about this stuff, it all seems the same.

And the case of THE ORVILLE, I think Grandma can be forgiven for mistaking it for an actual STAR TREK show since that's what it's parodying.

 

Yep. My dad thinks "Dr. Spock" is from Star Wars, for example. I've made more than a few similar errors myself regarding other fan properties. Unless I'm vested in something, I'm going to make those kinds of mistakes, too.

Don't be absurd. They're a rock band from back in the 1970s who sang "Beginnings."

 

For a long time, I thought "Duck Dynasty" was some sort of cartoon sequel to "Duck Tales." Really.

 

I'm not sure anyone can confirm or deny whether they are or not, to be honest.

 

There was a time I thought all the different Doctors from Dr. Who were reboots & essentially different shows. I still don't watch the show, so why would I ever know?

 

Here is a example of a show I don't know anything about and people can explain it to me. Was that old tv show "Silk Stalkings" kind of light porn?
Also I have never seen Harry Potter but I think it's about a kid in the 1950's who is sent to school for magic by a mean uncle and their he learns potions and magic and meets weird animals.

Jason

 

I get not understanding shows you don't watch but it blows me away when people say they watch a show every week but don't seem to understand basic characters or plot points it seems very strange. I half watch TV, usually i am playing a Minecraft or painting while I watch but I could still tell you a lot about a show I watch.

 

A woman I knew was convinced there was time travel in "Person of Interest" because of the way they did their flashbacks.

 

And this is exactly why I don't think the Orville's 'influence' matters in the slightest to Discovery. If it's bad, it's just bad. If it's good, it's reputation will spread and those who are open will slowly learn about it, just like Harry Potter or any other story (including Orville itself). The people who never learn about it are the people who were never going to watch in the first place. And since it is on a streaming service and not a network, it does actually have the luxury of time to build an audience. The worst that can possibly happen is some people will choose not to pay for Discovery because Orville is already enough for them and they can get it for free. But that was always the risk inherent in this streaming service, and it's not in any way unique to Orville, because people can get lots of shows for free and there's no guarantee that they were considering watching Star Trek just because it had spaceships.

 

Yep. And the show is quickly establishing a pocket fandom within the Trek demographic. I can't imagine CBS is happy with this.

 

Only problem is that I think Trek has always had crossover appeal for people who don't always love or like sci-fi much like "Star Wars" or on tv "The Twilgiht Zone" or "X-Files" etc. Seems to me to put it on CBS All Access your just asking to be nothing more than cult hit at best. Which might be what they are going for. I have said it before but I think the wave of the future is shows that aim for a loyal and reliable audience because their is to much competition to expect your show to be the next "Game of Thrones or "Walking Dead." It also why I think the show's success will mostly come from old school trekkers and new fans that enjoyed the Kelvin Universe movies.

I think many potential fans have already been lost to comic book shows and movies as well. I think those are what most younger fans seem to be into than they are in space opera's except "Star Wars" of course because "Star Wars" is always elevated above everything else. I also think older people looking for feel good family entertainment might not watch because it's seen as to dark and gritty and I doubt they will pay for CBS All Access for it even if they were curious. I mean "DS9" had the same issue when some thought it was to dark. To many people just wanted more TNG and nothing even little different because in the end I suspect many of them weren't Trek fans but just TNG fans and didn't care about the franchise beyond their one show in it that they liked.



Jason