Spoilers Game of Thrones - Season 7

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  1. Locutus of Bored

    Locutus of Bored Yo, Dawg! I Heard You Like Avatars... In Memoriam

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    Little Lyanna Mormont is going to airdrop in on her eleventh birthday on a bearskin parachute after jumping from Rhaegar's back once the dragons burn the roof off the Red Keep, roundhouse kicking Cersei in the face while screaming "The North Remembers!"
     
  2. DigificWriter

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    Jaime has consistently demonstrated his devotion to Cersei in about as many ways as it is possible to do, and has never once wavered. "Questioning looks" do not constitute a change in either behavior or mindset because they can be 'read' to mean literally anything depending on the preconceived biases of the person or persons interpreting them.

    Nothing about Jaime's ACTIONS thus far in the show has demonstrated or given any indication that his dedication to/love for Cersei has dimmed or changed, nor have his actions given any indication whatsoever that he might even consider destroying his love for her "for the good of the realm". I will back off my 100% certainty that such a drastic turn of events isn't possible, but if it were to occur, it would be such a dramatic departure from the character as he's been portrayed thus far that, for me at least, it would smack entirely of "fanservice" and be something from which the show could not recover.
     
  3. Locutus of Bored

    Locutus of Bored Yo, Dawg! I Heard You Like Avatars... In Memoriam

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    There's like seven episodes left, and I expect Cersei will still be around for most of them. It doesn't really have much time left to need to recover from once her fate is finally sealed, and the idea that Jaime killing her is some massive dealbreaker for the audience that would ruin the show just doesn't follow from anything I've ever seen.
     
  4. Scout101

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    Eh, it was a passing thought, and lets Jaime kill her without having to mean it.

    Timeline compression can still make it work, just imply that it took a few months to gather the troops and send people North, or there have been slow losses, or whatever. Just because we're not watching someone walk 1000 miles anymore doesn't mean they're using the transporter; they just don't have time for travelogue episodes anymore. We experienced 7 years of shows, but in-universe it doesn't seem that way. Characters are back to implying it's been that long, though, so who knows? Depends on where they leave things this Sunday, as well; may lend itself to a few month interlude...
     
  5. 137th Gebirg

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    If I could like this whole post 10 times, I would!
     
  6. The Nth Doctor

    The Nth Doctor Infinite Possibilities... Premium Member

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    I don't care if this a "jump the shark" moment (*hurl*), I would love to see this happen.
     
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  7. Locutus of Bored

    Locutus of Bored Yo, Dawg! I Heard You Like Avatars... In Memoriam

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    If this is in reply to my post preceding yours, I was replying to Digific's comments about the show being ruined and unable to recover if Jaime kills Cersei, not to your theory about her possibly dying in childbirth. :techman:
     
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  8. Miss Chicken

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    The Ned is alive theory has him warging into Ilyn Payne and chopping his own head off. Why he then does absolutely nothing for his family for the next few years is not explained.

    The Lyanna/Tormund theory is based on the statement by Tormund that he once had sex with a bear. The theory is that 'the bear' was actually Maege Mormont.

    And yes, the Stannis is alive theory is based on the fact that you don't see his death on screen.
     
  9. 137th Gebirg

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    I suspect that, due to the impecible honorbound nature of avenging Renly's murder, we didn't need to see Brienne run Stannis through, as there was no way in hell she would have walked away from that opportunity to fulfil one of her oaths.

    Interesting theory about Lyanna and Tormund. Makes sense, metaphorically. Kind of immaterial in the grand scheme of things, but definitely adds to the intricate nature of the story's overall tapestry. Maybe we'll see something of that in the books.
     
  10. Cyrus

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    The whole Sansa/Arya conflict seems kind of odd. It could be they are turning the table on littlefinger and are just pretendting to be adverserial. I expect littlefinger to be added to Arya's list, he maybe there already. If that happens then we could see Arya wear LF's face (to make sure Vale forces stay loyal).
     
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  11. 137th Gebirg

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    The only thing about that, is, several of their altercations happened without him being present nearby to witness, more especially the most recent one where Arya got really weird and gave Sansa LF's blade. That thing, honestly, has been passed around more times than a 5-copper Fleabottom hooker. :lol:
     
  12. Reverend

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    While Jamie killing Cersei does have a certain symmetry to it, I think a more interesting route might be having her finally completely loose her shit and kill *him*. Maybe he tries to talk her into some sane course of action? Maybe she takes that as a direct betrayal and in a fit of madness, decides to get her retaliation in first. Bonus points if a window and a tall tower is involved. After that, she'd probably either be a gibbering wreck, kill herself in grief or go full-on Aerys style dragonshit crazy.
     
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    If it goes that route, then Tyrion has to be one to kill her.
     
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    One I've read is that Syrio Forel was a faceless man and took on Ned's appearance and the axe while the real Ned still languishes in the black keep. Of course, others believe that Syrio didn't die at the hands of Meryn Trant & co and is Jaqen Hghar. There may be a few who simultaneously hold both views!

    Then there's the theory that Robb warged into Grey Wolf at the Red Wedding before he could be killed. Ah, but GW bought the farm too, I hear you say? No problem, he then warged from GW into another animal. Riiiiiight...

    Bottom line is that some people don't like the idea of their favourite characters dying.
     
  15. Cyrus

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    Ned being a faceless man requires the facelessman to have his face, which means Ned is dead anyway.
     
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    Logic/consistency and these theories do not go hand in hand.
     
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    I was one of the ones that once thought that Syrio was Jaqen and was always hoping that he would flash that face to Arya at some point to let her know he was alive and well. Might have gone a long way to healing some of the trauma that has teetered her over the sociopathic cliff. Now I'm not so sure anymore.

    There may be a scene next season that goes down that road, but who knows at this point? Doesn't really matter either way in the greater scheme of things.
     
  18. Captaindemotion

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    ^Syrio was a great character but I've no difficulty with the notion that he died like a badass in a heroic sacrifice to let Arya escape. Makes him all the greater, IMHO.
     
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    Oh I know, we're all nitpicking... where it's due. It's just nice when we get a realization on what first appears to be implausible. Fans often have to do some analysis to see what the writers may have overlooked and provide a feasible "fan wank" that works. It's just painful when we see things rushed, leaving the viewer to just presume all kinds of far fetched coincidences and conveniences.
     
  20. Vandervecken

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    You wrote:

    ...he can walk through fire and extinguish the flames by mere proximity to them, including dragon fire, which is much hotter than normal flame, able to burn men to ash in seconds.




    What you've written here includes an ability to walk through dragon fire. As I said, we don't know if he can walk through dragon fire for sure. I'd say it's likely a being as powerful as the Night King can do so, but we don't know for sure.
     
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