Spoilers Game of Thrones - Season 7

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  1. Reverend

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    Not sure what's going on with longclaw. Could be on-set happenstance, could be the VFX people having a little fun, could be something more deliberately significant.

    If it's the latter I'm not sure how that would even work. It's the blade that's somewhat magical, not the pommel. Hell, Jon even reminds the audience in this very episode that the pommel is a relatively recent addition.

    Can the Three Eyed Raven look though inanimate objects perhaps?

    Yeah...not really what I'd call a "rumour" on this show. ;)
     
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    My only question is this, how in the heck are they going to wrap this show up in seven episodes?
     
  3. Cyrus

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    That was an epic episode.

    The plan to go north of the Wall and come back with a captured zombie was stupid, and the actual events didn't change that. They got lucky to run into a small band of dead army and when the full army showed up they immediately asked for help with dragons, and would have all died without the dragon help. Would have been better to convince Dany to go with the dragons in the first place.

    People travelling at fast speeds didn't bother me before but those ravens and dragons travelled at warp speed this time.

    The flaming swords were super cool.

    I was also surprised to see the wildling redshirts. They were not there at the end of the last episode.

    Will we see zombie Hodor soon? What about zombie Benjen? he was kind of half dead already (couldn't pass the Wall). In the episode commentry the producers keep calling him Cold Hands. I haven't read the books so I don't get the significance if any.

    The big summit at the Kings Landing Colosseum in the next week's episode looks interesting. They didn't show Dany. But having her and Cersei in the same scene will be cool.

    I do think the dead army will get past the wall next week for the season ending cliff hanger. They either use the zombie dragon or the Bran loophole (him getting touched by the Night King) to do it.
     
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  5. Miss Chicken

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    They were there at the end of the previous episode. I posted this clip earlier in this thread and you see that there are men behind The Hound as they leave



    It has been stated the the episodes in the 8th season mayl be movie length so that might help.
     
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  6. Miss Chicken

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    I did a screen capture of the guys you see behind The Hound. [​IMG]
     
  7. The Nth Doctor

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    As awesome as that would be, I would be very surprised if Cersei dies so soon. Plus, I'm convinced Jaime will be doing the killing.

    I wondered the same thing pages ago. If it does happen, I hope they keep it a surprise for the full emotional impact and perhaps it'll be a surprise to even Bran who has become too distracted. It would be one hell of a gut punch tough. :(
     
  8. Xerxes82

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    Nope.

    Jon would be Dany's nephew. His father was her older brother.

    Edited for content, because as the next poster pointed out, I was dumb. Thanks Cyrus!
     
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  9. Cyrus

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    That would make him her nephew
     
  10. Gary7

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    When Daenerys finally gave more credence to Jon's claim about the White Walkers, he should've given her a full debriefing about the entire manifestation. The Night King. That dead people are turned by him or his lieutenants. And they're armed with unusual and dangerous weapons. Didn't the Night King launch a javelin in the first attack witnessed by Jon Snow? If he'd mentioned that, then Daenerys would realize the potential danger to her dragons.

    Also, in any attack you want to take out the leadership. These intelligent dragons... wouldn't they have noticed the Night King? I wonder if their fire would've taken him out.

    But lastly... the wights seemed to "die" or go inert in the freezing cold waters. HOW DID THEY ATTACH THE CHAINS TO THE DEAD DRAGON? :vulcan:
    I think the Night King used that same prophesy sight that Bran has... and maybe he foresaw the dragons coming to attack. And so he forged some special javelins and those chains in anticipation. That's the only explanation I can think of. The White Walkers don't keep massive chains on hand... unless they crafted them as part of tools to help take down the wall, and realized they could leverage them with the dead dragon? Still... I'd like to see them forge these with some kind of furnace, when they're all suceptible to fire. Maybe cold fire of some kind, a special spell the Night King casts?
     
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    Amazon Prime has free shipping north of the wall.
     
  12. 137th Gebirg

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    That must have been one big ass drone.
     
  13. The Nth Doctor

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    Even director Alan Taylor admits that the show's timing is getting a "little hazy."

    “We’ve got Gendry running back, ravens flying a certain distance, dragons having to fly back a certain distance…In terms of the emotional experience, [Jon and company] sort of spent one dark night on the island in terms of storytelling moments. We tried to hedge it a little bit with the eternal twilight up there north of The Wall. I think there was some effort to fudge the timeline a little bit by not declaring exactly how long we were there. I think that worked for some people, for other people it didn’t. They seemed to be very concerned about how fast a raven can fly but there’s a thing called plausible impossibilities, which is what you try to achieve, rather than impossible plausibilities. So I think we were straining plausibility a little bit, but I hope the story’s momentum carries over some of that stuff.”​
     
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  14. Xerxes82

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    D'oh! You are correct sir. This is why I shouldn't post after 2 hours of sleep and 11 hours of work. Lol. Thank you for the fix.
     
  15. The Nth Doctor

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    A.V. Club reports that the final episode is called "The Dragon and the Wolf" and will be 17 seconds shy of 80 minutes long.
     
  16. Cyrus

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    So it is about Dany & Jon. or just Jon who is both Wolf and Dragon
     
  17. DigificWriter

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    Regardless of whether or not Cersei survives until Season 8, she's likely dying at the hands of either Arya or Dany; anything else at this point would be a "jump the shark" moment.

    Also, Jonaerys (Jon+Dany) is a confirmed "show-Canon" eventuality (thank you, Alan Taylor), so the title of 7x07 is likely referring to the both of them.
     
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    May she'll be killed by a jumping shark. The Drowned God FTW!
     
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    I am hoping that it also includes something about the other Wolf and Dragon - Lyanna and Rhaegar.
     
  20. Locutus of Bored

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    They knew where the dragon went in the water from the big hole in the ice. So they just dropped the chain in a loop and kept trawling and re-dropping the chain until they hooked it around the giant horns on Viserion's head.

    [​IMG]
     
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