My theory on why Kes wasn't a more beloved character. Also opinion on Lien. post-"Voyager."

natural selection occurs on a generational basis. An individual organism doesn't change, a population does. We can observe more dramatic changes in insects (like the peppered moth) and microbial organisms (like antibiotic resistant bacteria) than large animals with long reproductive cycles (like elephants), because of the time it takes for those populations to change.

 

Ok, but how does that apply to the Ocampa?

 

I'm proud to be a prude but at the same time, Seven's costume didn't bother me all that much except for the fact that it made me wince thinking about how uncomfortable it must be for her.

 

So, I shouldn't object to my friends objectifying a woman?

Please don't presum to read my mind.

Indeed.

I'm just noting differences in the marketing.

 

Forget the suit.

Think of the heels.

 

For them that would mean that compared to a species that has longer lifespans the ocampa would evolve faster since there would be more generations.

 

Yeah those heels looked uncomfortable but i just find any heels uncomfortable.

Jeri Ryan has spoken about the corset being uncomfortable but she hasn't spoken much about the heels

 

Makes sense though it still raises the question of why their reproduction is so messed up?

 

I hope someday high heels will go the way of foot binding.

 

Heels are one of the most ridiculous inventions.

 

It may not be messed up. My assumption is that either the Caretaker was restricting their reproduction or they had twins or triplets. Kes mentioned she had an uncle so that does happen.

 

It doesn't!
Not at all.

 

So before I start posting magazine covers, like TV guide, and ST, which show other female trek actresses in similar poses; and conversely, show Seven in "regular girl" poses as you say, you could do yourself a favor and look them up.

 

I really like her hairdo in seasons 1 and 2.
She looks great in that pixie hair and it is sort of trademark for the character.
She looks good in long hair too but she became more average with that, just one of those TV series blonde.

 

It does. An Ocampan generation is every 3-5 years.

 

Naughty, naughty fireproof!

You should know that it's very, very naughty and unfair to criticize the catsuit and the marketing of "sexy Seven". You can be severely attacked for that.
Just like kicking a beehive, you can end up with a lot of bees stinging you.

 

Honestly, I see nothing in all those explanations which explains why a species with such short lifespans could develope into more than primates.

 

More like hypocritical and stretching distinctions. As Seven's catsuit is an item of regular ridicule on this forum, who's doing the stinging?

 

Speaking of hypocritical, are you prepared to go through the list of Trek aliens, and their evolutionary plausibility? Let's start with handlebar faces...

This is a fictional show. A species with a 9 year lifespan is more plausible than transporters and warp speed, replicators and holodecks.

I mean...THIS is the issue that causes your suspension of disbelief to falter??! REALLY?

 

They may have made Seven look like a bimbo, but she certainly didn't act like one.

And the issue about what female characters wear is that NO male character was ever made to wear outfits that accentuated their anatomy. The catsuits and the high heels emphasize the notion that, before anything else they do, women are there for men to look at and fantasize over. It's one thing what a character chose to wear in her off duty hours, but it's quite another what she wore on duty. Wearing heels on duty is NOT practical, especially for those who spend hours on their feet. Tight fitting catsuits are not practical for those whose duties involve a lot of bending, stooping, climbing, crawling, etc.