Q might be Guinan's son! My theory.

Of course you're going to think it's a nice premise, because it's your premise. But I'm pretty sure that Guinan hated Q because Q was a dick. Not because he was her son.

 

You forget he seemed to hate her as well, Plus my idea doesn't dismiss that idea it just gives it a little more detail and more backstory for the characters.

Jason

 

No I didn't.

But the charm of these characters is that they are mysterious. Making them related just creates more of the "small universe" syndrome that Trek already has way too much of.

 

I'm not sure you can ever take away the mystery of the Q simply because of just how powerful they are. While making them related would humanize them to a degree I think it would work , depending on how it was done. Me I would go for the humor because if you did the drama it could feel like melodrama. Maybe it would feel a little convient that are related but not anymore than the fact that Guinan just happened to be on the same ship that Q started to pester, to only find a old enemy aboard. To me this seems perfectly acceptable in how tv shows always tend to rely on chance encounters or people being in just the right place to make a scene work.

Jason

 

Your family dynamic must be all-out gladiatorial combat if you think there is anything at all familial between Guinan and Q. The Borg, by Guinan's own account, scattered her people all over the galaxy. Q has already proven aiming the Borg at a civilisation is a bit of sport to him. Guinan's hatred of Q is very simple to frame in that paradigm. He thought it would be funsies to steer the Borg her people's way. Her people got decimated, and Q got a laugh. Jamming a fork through his hand would only be the opening salvo if it were me.

 

Having the Borg assimilate Guinan's people I think also works. IN which case I would think that Q might have been intrigued by her much like he is with Picard. Granted you idea plays more for drama and mine more for humor but I think both idea's could work depending on what kind of story you want to do. I would lean towards humor simply because the scene's between them are kind of funny and the Q character does present a ton of humor to his shows.
The drama idea IMO would have worked best if it was a farewell episode to the Guinan character or a new way to use the Borg which would have been a big upgrade on the way they were used in "Descent" IMO.

Jason

 

Guinan has every reason to wish for Q's destruction. There's no mirth in it for her. She's fixed on retribution. And rightly so. Yes, we get a laugh when she plants a fork through his hand. But it's deadly serious for her. Having Guinan get the upper hand and toy with Q as he's toyed with countless other races? Schadenfreude incarnate. I'm all for that. But it would be, at best, bittersweet.

There's no family anything going on between them. Q has been around for billions of years. Guinan has been around for maybe a thousand. Two distinct, disparate species. It's not a terribly difficult concept to grasp unless you flatly refuse to try.

 

Guinan's supposed to be several hundred years old and Q's supposed to be millions of years old.

I got the impression Guinan was on the young side in Time's Arrow.

 

I don't think we have ever gotten a good idea on how old either of them are and with Q their is the issue of that time doesn't have to be linear to them because they can travel through time but their must at some point be a pre-imortal version of them that hasn't evolved into what they will become. My idea is the Al-Aurians were that but in theory it could happen at any point in time. It might be in the distant future or even in another universe for all we know.

Jason

 

In Time's Arrow Guinan is young enough that her father would still send a ship to collect her, at least.

In Death Wish we get the impression Q has been around long enough to do everything of note in the universe.

 

Problem is we don't know enough about Guinan relationship with her dad to read to much into that. She could have been a employee of the government on vacation for all we know and he was a KIng that was calling her back.
As for Q that is true but when he and the Q were mortal they would have to exist at some point in the timeline and with time travel it can be at any time in history from the distant past,present or distant future.
If Q was her son it would be like me traveling back in time to meet my mom back in 1995. In this scenario Guinan can still have ties to the universe like most other people but Q can do anything because of his power, including meeting people from his past.

Jason

 

So in conclusion, nothing we say to you is going to change your mind that you think Q is Guinan's son.

Ok, fine. I guess the discussion is over then.

 

I'm not saying Guinan is his mother. It's just a possibility to speculate over. Chances are we will never really know what their history is. It's fun to think about the possibilities IMO.

Jason

 

But it's not really speculation when multiple people have given their opinions as to why your idea does not have merit and all you do is counterpoint with nonsequitors such as "Well, I think it works anyway."

But, whatever.

 

That's just people having different opinions. When I give my opinion i'm not saying that their opinion is wrong or is crap i'm just making a argument why I think my idea still seems viable. The point of these kind of threads isn't to win a debate but just to exchange ideas.

Jason

 

I always assumed that was the overall interest the Q had in humanity. They see the writing on the wall. We're going to get there someday, & specifically they have an issue with this morality thing we bring to the table. It might put a hampering on their party lol