Future of Paramount includes Star Trek tentpole

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by RAMA, Mar 11, 2017.

  1. RAMA

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    Well, at this stage, I like what I've read about Jim Gianopulos.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-jim-gianopulos-paramount-20170321-story.html

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    Gianopulos ran Fox during a period when it produced such hit franchises as “X-Men,” “Avatar” and more recently, “Deadpool.”

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    Paramount has long been managed for quarterly profits, which has discouraged filmmakers and led to a shortage of projects in its pipeline. Gianopulos probably will mine his strong relationships with top producers in Hollywood to repair Paramount’s reputation of being a difficult place to work.

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    “Jim Gianopulos knows how to make major motion pictures that people want to see rather than complex financial deals that do little more than minimize financial risk,” said Jeffrey Cole, director of USC’s Center for the Digital Future.
     
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    Star Trek is not a tentpole. It is a distinctly American product with a niche international market. The biggest films of this year - The Beauty and the Beast, The Fate of the Furious - transcend cultural boundaries and do not need to be modified significantly for them to succeed.
     
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    They'll keep churning out new crew Trek movies until one of the main leads (namely Pine) quits, they get old, or if one of them is a truly disastrous bomb like Nemesis.

    I'm not a big fan of the reboot, but I really enjoyed Beyond so I'm looking forward to a new installment. Hopefully Lin is back.

    I'm intrigued by a TNG reboot, but I'm not sure if the general public would be interested, and if it happened now it would likely still be controlled by Bad Robot/Abrams and his sensibilities are even less fitting for TNG than for TOS.
     
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    It'll be interesting to see where the movies go, when Discovery has transplanted much of their look into the TV realm. They're going to have to fight harder to stand apart and convince people to part with their ticket money.
     
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    I wouldn’t worry too much about that as Discovery is going to be a niche program on a fairly obscure streaming service. I highly doubt Discovery brings in people by the millions to that service.
     
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    Soon, it will be a year since the last film released. Other then the flurry of talk which happened in the wake of nuTrek 3 landing at the theaters, there has been mostly silence from Paramount about a sequel. Here, silence is not a good thing.

    As for Discovery, I have been watching the Trekyards analysis of the trailer. It is becoming clear to me that this series is a soft reboot of Star Trek. The trailer did not excite me and I need more than one reason to sign up for a streaming service. I do not watch much of modern network TV.
     
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    So, what would a TNG reboot look like? Would the crew of the Enterprise-D even be the same? Though I doubt it would happen, i World love to see Tom Hardy reprise his role as a young Jean-Luc Picard, but as the actual Picard of the Kelvin Timeline. That would help bring in the audience...
     
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    Shite.
     
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    Depends entirely on how they approached it. It could be really cool, or a catastrophe.

    I'd love to see Picard's backstory with Jack Crusher told, like a TNG reboot version of X-Men: First Class.
     
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    Picard's time on the Stargazer would be the only TNG story that would really interest me. And, it would have to be a reboot because Data would have to be there.
     
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    Also, I do agree that the marketing for BEY was terrible, and the release date was catastrophic. It was released when all the hype was focused on the Justice League film. In fact, BEY was released during the same week as San Diego Comic Con, which, imo, hurt the opening box office. Either release the next film a month before the next Marvel or DC film, or in August after Comic Con. Release it in the month when no tentpole franchise movie is going to be released. Oh, and don't wait until the last minute to promote the trailers. Spread them out over a year's time.
     
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    So the 4th of Never?

    Star Trek can't run from competition. There will always be something out there it has to compete with.
     
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    Not quite like that. It was a disappointing year for franchise movies overall--which is what BEY was not a flop or anything--and that's because of how crowded the field was. Beyond didn't stand up because it was slotted poorly and because it wasn't marketed well. The movies that did well had generational appeal that they don't seem to target with Star Trek.

    Like, all those other movies have toys and t-shirts and stuff and they gave up on marketing Trek to families before Into Darkness even came out. So idk.
     
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    James Mcavoy as Captain Picard!

    Actually, I'd like to see some gender flipping of some of the characters. Captain Reinette Picard, anybody?
     
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    Jeanne-Lucille Picard?
     
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    Wrong. Look up the films that were released in May 2009 (ST09) and May 2013 (STiD).

    https://www.movieinsider.com/movies/may/2009
    https://www.movieinsider.com/movies/may/2013

    ST09 and STiD were released during months that had little to no competition, and had better marketing, with trailers being released for both film over the span of a year. BEY, while a better film, was released during San Diego Comic Con, which was a bad move in my opinion. In fact, the week that BEY was released, not only was there a convention with many talents on hand, but you had the exclusive trailers from the convention being talked about more so than 'Trek. Also, with social media being a "thing", many of the YouTube movie reviewers were at the convention, and focused their energies on what was coming out of the convention, and didn't even get around to review BEY until a week or two after the convention. In one such case, the YouTuber "Angry Black Nerd" didn't even mention that he saw BEY until his "End of the Year Movie Review: Best & Worst" long after the fact (he gave it a positive review). Ergo, I still stand by my original assertion, and I will add this: if you can't get people from social media to talk about your film or television "product", you won't be able to maximize your marketing efforts. Just go on Facebook or YouTube, and check out how effective marketing can be used on social media, compared to traditional media outlets.

    STAR TREK is not the block buster franchise it should be, due to intense competition, but that doesn't mean it can't do well if you are smart about it (like placing the film during a month that it can dominate the competition, like ST09 did in May of 2009). Just saying.
     
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    Would Ms. Picard still be bald, though? Maybe, she'd be half-Deltan instead of human...?