Starfleet - war criminals? (Sisko and Starfleet Command)

What about the "Bloody, bloody Cardassian War" where millions died?

I've been listening to the "DS9 Epilogue Podcast" on YouTube lately. It's an episode by episode podcast with two hosts. One is a first time viewer who hasn't seen any other Trek and has no idea what's to come. The other is a second time viewer who hasn't seen the show since airing, and isn't very familiar with other series.

Despite the low production value, I find it quite honest and humorous. They frequently mention Sisko's questionable ethics and temperament, Bashir's questionable medical ethics(Which I had never considered), and so on.

The episodes are about 15-30 mins long. If anyone gives it a go, I'd recommend starting on Emissary.

It's nice to hear fresh opinions that aren't colored by extensive knowledge of and experience viewing all the Trek shows.

 

You make some solid points on this topic. I found Sisko's "It's easy to be a saint in paradise" line pretty much a thesis statement for the series.

 

Making sexual advances on his patients (patients would include people like Jadzia Dax), sometimes he would begin dating his patients after medically improving their lives in significant ways.

Nahhh, no ethical problems there.

 

Yeah, they mention a whole slew of them that I had forgotten about. Jadzia, The girl who can't walk, the girl in Chrysalis, Ezri, The thing with Kern, etc.

It's a pretty lighthearted commentary though.

 

If Bashir is careful, there wouldn't be a problem. Once the medical treatment is concluded, they're not patients anymore. He can't date somebody he is actually treating, but once he is finished treating them, then he has no power over them.

And we already know that Starfleet has no rules against fraternization - as long as it's desired by everyone involved, officers and crew alike can date whoever they want. Even subordinates.

 

You know I've always wondered what having an evening with the captain on the holodeck would be like-Janeway at the end of Renaissance man goes on to the Doctor about a bunch of protocols of how your supposed to act when in a leisure or hang out situation with the captain.

I mean that's like partying with either your boss or worse your superior officer-which would be pretty awkward. I'm not sure I'd know how to handle myself.

 

Partying with a superior officer is awesome. That's how you get promoted faster. Partying with his/her superior officer is even better.

 

Given the way Janeway acted, it seems like the Captain is a special class when it comes to social interactions and dating.

Other officers do not seem to have that concern, nor does it seem to be addressed with other officers in the same command.

Not to mention "Profit and Lace..."

Actually, you know what, let's not mention that episode. That raises a lot of ethical questions.

 

Somewhat complex if it's an ongoing relationship and they get sick

 

Aren't a lot of these cases where Bashir continues treating them while dating them?

 

Sisko the war criminal, Bashir taking advantage of women in the surgery. What a crooked lot these people are.

 

And people wonder I'm an Eddington fan.

 

Because he's a different scum bag?

 

Because he's a hero, he's larger than life(plays music) no because he's a freedom fighter, a champion, litteratuer, and all around awesome example of eternal principle embodied in flesh.

 

Lol, we so watched a different show

 

How I hate this line of argument.

Roddenberry was not a visionary or some enlightend individual.

He was a typical money hungry hollywood writer that hit on one good idea.
And even that idea he nearly ruined with tge first two seasons of TNG.

 

I forgot that Captain Kirk had appeared on DS9.

 

If the relationship came first, not so complex.

If there was a prior abusive relationship that ended in he said/she said accusations, then one needed to be treated by the other (no other option) ... now that would be complex.

Might be able to exchange "money" for "sex" in that sentence.