Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

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  1. Serveaux

    Serveaux Fleet Admiral Premium Member

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    It's a common enough expression in American English these days, so having it show up on Supergirl is a kind of delightful joke. I laughed.
     
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  2. Dick Whitman

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    I had the same question about public awareness of Kryptonite. I am sure it can be explained somehow. But that line was written like it was complete public knowledge which the show has previously said it is not at all. This is a pattern of inconsistency on the writers part in terms of Superman's long public profile on Earth vs their desire for Kara to learn things on her own. Kara should have known of Kryptonite when the show began. Being warned of its existence by Clark. Also maybe it was known of to some in the public as an Urban Legend as a possible weakness to Superman. But most people dismissed it.
     
  3. Dick Whitman

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    I laughed too but it does not make much sense in the context of what the show has told us. Would it make sense to have jokes about how simple Clark Kent's disguise is from characters who do not even known he needs one?
     
  4. Serveaux

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    Frankly I think Kara and "Mike's" glasses are a running joke about how simple Clark's disguise is. :lol:
     
  5. Skipper

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    Do you remember when in Silver Age you could buy Kryptonite in you local drugstore? ;)
     
  6. Christopher

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    One thing you have to give the George Reeves series -- it was pretty good about not overusing kryptonite. It was only used a few times, and in the first two or three cases, it was the same piece of synthetic K being disposed of and recovered.

    The earlier radio show was pretty good about it, too. There was only a single kryptonite meteorite that fell to Earth, was stored away for safekeeping, and then eventually got stolen and cut into four pieces that were sold to Superman's rogues. There was this whole epic series of consecutive tales driven by the first three pieces of K, and then the fourth was left to be dealt with a few years later, and that was the end of it. In the whole decade of the series' run, only 7 stories involving kryptonite (5 of them consecutive), and all from that single original meteorite.
     
  7. Serveaux

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    Kryptonite was less of a thing when Superman was less powerful. As he eventually became God Himself during the Silver Age, the stuff was more important to more plots - his adversaries needed it more.
     
  8. Guy Gardener

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    Dude.

    It was a a direct and flagrant breach of her (employment) contract to publish on a a competing social media platform.

    She was fired for competing against CatCo Magazine because it was against the words in her contract to compete against CatoCo.

    That's called a noncompete which means that she is not allowed to compete which she did, which is why she got fired for competing in violation of her contract that forbid her competing that she ignored because she wanted to compete even though it was against her contract to compete.

    "Sigh"
     
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  9. Kirk Prime

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    Um, once she was fired, the contract is over. She is not barred from writing on her own blog when she is no longer employed by CatCo. You can "sigh" all you want, but once she was terminated, so was the contract. Yes, she was fired for cause, and it was justified. But there is a difference from not being allowed to compete while employed, and not being allowed to compete when the employment is terminated. Snapper couldn't do anything in this episode because she was not bound to CatCo.
     
  10. Snaploud

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    It actually depends upon the jurisdiction. Silicon Valley largely got ahead because non-competes were rarely enforced in California (as a result of a legal provision entered into law back in 1872). By contrast, Boston had a similar tech base but never managed to overcome Silicon Valley precisely because non-competes were enforced much more strictly in Boston.

    Non-compete agreements have powerful lobbyists in Seattle and Boston in the form of Microsoft and EMC, respectively, so California will likely continue to benefit from this imbalance for many years to come.

    National City is fictional, so I have no idea whether or not non-competes are big thing there.
     
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  11. Guy Gardener

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    When did I ever say say that the noncompete was enforecable past the point of her termination?

    It's why she was fired.

    After she's fired, she can do what she wants, which is what she did.
     
  12. Serveaux

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    Around here, non-competes can be attempts by consulting firms to keep their talent from going off on their own, taking their contacts and possibly "stealing" government contracts out from under their former employers.

    Fortunately for the talent, it's also often true that they know enough about business details like the former employer's sometimes (ahem) improvisational billing practices that a quiet conversation makes the lawsuit go away.
     
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  13. The Old Mixer

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    I spotted the Kryptonite thing, too.
     
  14. Christopher

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    National City is implicitly the Earth-38 analogue of Los Angeles, so it seems reasonable to expect it to follow California rules.
     
  15. Serveaux

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    Well, that's really reaching for a justification.

    Aside from the skyline, what about National City closely resembles L.A? More to the point, if you list everything about Los Angeles that isn't represented in Supergirl there's no there, there. ;)
     
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    How easy was it for Kara and Mon El to hack into the servers :lol: Talk about shit security. Anyone else get a Brainiac vibe in this episode?
     
  17. Greg Cox

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    I confess: I didn't recognize her until you just pointed that out.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    You heard of APB?

    (It's new)

    Shit show, but they went through a similar situation the other day.

    Their resolution?

    The hero had an EMP Rifle, just pulled it out of his ass at the 11th hour.

    ZAP!
     
  19. Tosk

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    Yeah, I hate when the characters make jokes based on things that are pop culture to us, but should be unknown to them. Like Gus Gorman doing the Superman shirt rip pose in Superman III, or Lex's line in Superman II (TV version only) where he calls Superman the Smallville Slugger. Feh.
     
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  20. TREK_GOD_1

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    Oh, come on. He is a professional working against deadlines with no time for someone overstepping her very limited experience and jumping to often unprofessional conclusions. The job is not grade school.

    You're only noting that now about Supergirl's scripts??

    She used all she saw/experienced as SG as part of her story and "investigation" so again, she's using advantages normal reporters do not have. This is different than say, Peter Parker taking pics of Spider-Man in action, since he is the subject of his superhero photos


    Starting with...
    • the show runner-forced trashing of the Kara/James romance
    • The beat-the-audience-over-the-head / Teennick saga of Mon-El
    • Too many Alex plots, nearly smothering the most important Alex story involving her father / Cadmus
    • Infantile, clumsy attempts at social or political commentary (including the incessant, thinly veiled Trump attacks)
    ...and there's more.

    The DEO is overused--Supergirl should have adventures beyond that handed out by her boss. She's lost a sense of the independent heroine really breaking out on her own and establishing her own world and rogues gallery having nothing to do with DEO interests. If the show runners were not ripping plots from many DC Comics, cartoons, etc., then it's DEO-centric for just about any kind of story.