Smile (Grade & Discussion Thread)

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by TommyR01D, Apr 21, 2017.

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How do you feel about this episode?

Poll closed Apr 29, 2017.
  1. Love Heart

    8 vote(s)
    10.4%
  2. Smiley Face

    50 vote(s)
    64.9%
  3. Straight Face

    15 vote(s)
    19.5%
  4. Sad Face

    4 vote(s)
    5.2%
  5. Angry Face

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Starkers

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    Fingers crossed!
     
  2. Paul Weaver

    Paul Weaver Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    I did wonder whether Bill's parents were fans of 2.4 children. Around the right age.
     
  3. MacLeod

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    Isn't Billie, just the feminie form of Billy? So someone might refer to some one called Bill (male) as Billy.
     
  4. Guy Gardener

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    Bill is a firm stand against gender expectations.

    Has any one asked Bill how they identify?

    If they identify as male, then he is not a lesbian.
     
  5. Paul Weaver

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    You could refer to 'Matt Smith' as 'Matty Smith'. It wouldn't be right.

    I recall a friend at school who had been named "Danny" on his birth certificate. He got a detention once, and the note sent home explained how "Daniel" was being kept behind after school.

    His parents responded that they had no idea who Daniel was, and if their son Danny wasn't back home at the normal time they would take it up with the headmaster.

    For many people, Billy != Bill != William != Will != Willie
     
  6. MacLeod

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    Yes but my point was to call a female named Bill as Billie is not wrong. Using an alternate form of a name only becomes wrong if the indidual in question says please don't call me that.
     
  7. Guy Gardener

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    Okie dokey Macky.
     
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  8. Paul Weaver

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    It's as wrong as
    Johnny Archer, Willy Riker or Benny Sisko. You woulnd't call James T Kirk "Jimmy" unless he gave you permission.

    Bill has said her name is Bill. Not Billy or Will or Mack or Buddy.
     
  9. Guy Gardener

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    (I totally agree with you Paul.)

    "From the library of Admiral Johnny Archer" Ent Fusion.



    Skip to 1 minute 16. Willy Riker. The episode was directed by Frakes. :)

    Also...

    TNG Haven.

    "Brother Benny!" DS9 Far Beyond the Stars.

    "FIGHT ME JIMMY!!!!" TOS Shore Leave.
     
  10. ToddKent

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    I always got the impression that Brits loved adding an unnecessary "y" or "ie" to words. Like, "Turn on the telly so we can watch that Timey Wimey show."
     
  11. Tallguy

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    The Great Bird disagreed with you.
     
  12. Professor Zoom

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    Not if they asked you to call them Bill.
     
  13. Tallguy

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    Only if we're related and then on a case by case basis.
     
  14. The Wormhole

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    And yet, even on his watch, the Enterprise's crew mourned Tasha Yar.
     
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  15. The Nth Doctor

    The Nth Doctor Infinite Possibilities... Premium Member

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    Decent episode, certainly better than "In the Forest of the Night." Beautiful cinematography and the music was a softer, quieter take than Murray Gold's usual fare, which was quiet refreshing. However, the episode a very strange energy to it, resulting from a combination of choppy directing and exposition-heavy dialogue, more so than a normal episode with such a small cast. I like the idea of the emojibots/nanobots evolving into a sentient species, but I don't think the idea itself wasn't develop all that well.

    I'm sure most people weren't bothered by this, but while the setting was lovely, I couldn't see it as a futuristic colony because I've visited all of those buildings in Valencia and was subsequently taken out of the story every time we saw an exterior shot. Still, it's lovely alien-esque architecture.

    I did like the callback to The Ark, The Sontarans, and all of the other stories about humans leaving Earth when it became inhabitable. I have a feeling there were other references that I missed (aside from the incidental reference to "Dinosaurs in a Spaceship").

    Bill is continuing to prove to be a great companion and I love her rapport with The Doctor. I look forward to seeing their relationship growing.

    I also loved how the episode ended with The Doctor and Bill not arriving back on Earth at the time they expected. Felt like taking a page from the old days of The First (and later the Fifth) Doctor era where the serial ended leading directly into the next.
     
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  16. Shawnster

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    No, but plenty call him Jim.
     
  17. Marc

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    but Jim is the normal diminutive for James, Jimmy has young kid conntations so tends to go by the wayside when a James gets older.

    Then again I gather that James Doohan went by Jimmy.
     
  18. Shawnster

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    It's rare someone goes by a diminutive form of a name through adult life, but it happens. I know a Billy who is in his 70s.
    Sometimes it gets funny. My dad's name was Dave (not David). He would have family or others sometimes call him Davey. They actually lengthened his name.

    In the case of Bill.... For a man Bill is already a diminutive or shortened form of William. Will be interesting if we ever discover if Bill is her full name or if the character is really Willa, Willemina, Willamette, Wilma or Wilhelmina.
     
  19. Starkers

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    Not to mention Spock!

    The Beast Below!
     
  20. The Nth Doctor

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    Ah, yeah, I didn't even make that connection. :lol:
     
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