NFL 2016-2017

Discussion in 'Sports and Fitness' started by JeffinOakland, Aug 27, 2016.

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Vote for which teams you think will be in the Super Bowl. Pick 2.

Poll closed Jan 21, 2017.

  1. Patriots

    6 vote(s)
    75.0%

  2. Steelers

    2 vote(s)
    25.0%

  3. Packers

    4 vote(s)
    50.0%

  4. Falcons

    4 vote(s)
    50.0%
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  1. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Amazing...*shakes head*
     
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  2. JeffinOakland

    JeffinOakland Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    As an Oaklander, I can't really blame Mark Davis. It's the smart business decision. The incompetence of the mayor's office and Oakland city council has been a huge problem for years. Decades. When Jerry Brown was the mayor, he tried to get the city council and other Oakland leaders to talk about news stadiums for the A's and Raiders. The council wouldn't even discuss it. Blame the NFL and Davis all you want but this is squarely on the shoulders of Oakland's "leadership."
     
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  3. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

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    NFL expected to ban leaping block attempts on FG's & PAT's.

    Story

    Next up for the NFL:
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    Ar-Pharazon, Mar 28, 2017
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  4. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    It's more the financial ramifications on Las Vegas and their "leadership" decisions.

    But, the NFL means money so I'm not surprised. Just very frustrated by it.
     
    fireproof78, Mar 28, 2017
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  5. Timby

    Timby o yea just like that Administrator

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    That's what it likes municipalities to think. But because these public financing deals are generally done through issuance of 20-year bonds, after inflation they generally wind up losing a metric fuckton of money.

    Cities should not be in the business of subsidizing private enterprise. If Mark Davis wanted a mallpark of a stadium in Las Vegas, he could have done what every other developer does -- go to a bank and ask for a loan. Not suckle at the taxpayers' teat.
     
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  6. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    No argument here.
     
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  7. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    It is terrible that cities fall for this time after time. But, if I'm Davis (or the NFL/MLB/NBA/NHL/MLS), I'm not going to say no if a city offers me a billion dollars in incentives to come. *Not sure of how stable a long term market Las Vegas will be. But that's another story.

    Las Vegas is just the current sucker. Either Oakland/St. Louis/San Diego will be next when they realize they want another NFL team.
     
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  8. Kronos

    Kronos Admiral Admiral

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    Oakland looking into ways to force the Raiders out early, hope they find one.
     
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  9. Timby

    Timby o yea just like that Administrator

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    Oakland's on the hook for $13 million a year in debt service on the Coliseum until 2025, not surprised they'd like to boot them. It would save the Coliseum Authority a shit-ton of money each year to not have to convert it back and forth from football to baseball usage and back.
     
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  10. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

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    Do the Raiders still have to pay till 2025 if Oakland tears the thing down and builds a new baseball park for the A's?
     
    Ar-Pharazon, Mar 30, 2017
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  11. Timby

    Timby o yea just like that Administrator

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    Yes, because debt is debt and those 30-year bonds still have to be repaid no matter what.
     
    Timby, Mar 30, 2017
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  12. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    Wouldn't it be Oakland on the hook for those bonds since they were the ones who issued them?
     
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  13. Timby

    Timby o yea just like that Administrator

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    Yes, that's what I meant, my apologies.
     
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  14. 1001001

    1001001 Serial Canon Violator Moderator

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    I think it'll be great to be able to go to Vegas for a weekend and see a game just like you'd see a show.

    It'll be a very different dynamic.
     
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  15. Timby

    Timby o yea just like that Administrator

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    Have fun paying a hundred bucks for a parking spot.
     
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  16. 1001001

    1001001 Serial Canon Violator Moderator

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    They'll have shuttles from the hotels.
     
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  17. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    Yep. Aren't they putting the stadium right on the Vegas strip?
     
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  18. gblews

    gblews Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Infrastructure costs are nothing close to the near quarter of a billion dollars or more, that cities are typically asked to come up with on order to get an NFL stadium built.
    I'm sorry for the Oakland fans, but I applaud the city of Oakland for not selling out it's taxpayers to make a billionaire, more of a billionaire.
    Amen.
     
    gblews, Apr 2, 2017
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  19. 1001001

    1001001 Serial Canon Violator Moderator

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    Tony Romo is retiring.

    Say what you will about him, but he was a gamer. The guy never stopped.
     
    1001001, Apr 4, 2017
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  20. Ar-Pharazon

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    I only hope he can have a good life after the all beatings he took and the injuries.
     
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