Admiral Janeway, your personal thoughts?

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  1. Dukhat

    Dukhat Admiral Admiral

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    That's even more dumb. Why would Seven of Nine be at a wedding for people she didn't know?
     
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  2. Devilpogostick

    Devilpogostick Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I can now only imagine Picard leaning to Beverly and asking who in the blue hell that woman is at the wedding.
     
  3. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    This is my thinking as well.
    Hopefully the Borg thing wouldn't be off putting for him.
     
  4. JonnyQuest037

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    It bugged me, honestly. I thought that Janeway was such a bad Captain that seeing her be drummed out of the fleet would've seemed more plausible to me. But hey, Nemesis had a plethora of problems.

    Well, Jeri Ryan certainly has a proud history of filling things out in Star Trek. ;)
     
  5. Guy Gardener

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    Worf was a drunk who got kicked out of the Empire.

    Janeway and Worf could have easily switched backstories.
     
  6. cardinal biggles

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    Star Trek Nemesis got 99 problems, but Admiral Janeway ain't one.

    I thought the dialogue between them was hokey and name-droppy, but Mulgrew's presence and her character's huge promotion (Kirk never made it past Rear Admiral either time) didn't bother me.
    Did we ever see a one-pip Admiral over the course of the Berman era? 2- and 3-pips were the most common, and in fact Future Riker in "All Good Things" was the first four-pipper we ever see.
     
  7. Bry_Sinclair

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    There were two-, three- and four-star admirals but never a one- or five-star, despite meeting Fleet Admiral Shanthi.
     
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  8. Guy Gardener

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    Not Pips.

    Studs on a badge, that are called stars according to the encyclopaedia.
     
  9. Smellmet

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    I like what you did there. :beer:
     
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  10. Bry_Sinclair

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    Amended :)
     
  11. Devilpogostick

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    Given the state of the Alpha Quadrant and the Federation after the Dominion War...I'd say Voyager's return was a well needed morale boost at the very least.

    And Starfleet is well aware of it. So instead of pissing away that stroke of luck, they gave Janeway (and to an extent the crew) a lot of leeway than they would usually allowed. As a trade off and at least give something that sounds like punishment which I believe did happen offscreen , Janeway gets the hero's welcome and promotion...But is never allowed to command a Starship for the rest of her career. Janeway doesn't actually mind these conditions so it was overall win-win.

    Kinda scummy since she didn't get stricter punishments but frankly, Starfleet needed something uplifting, and the sudden return of a ship thought lost was it in my head
     
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  12. Galileo7

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    Admiral Janeway in NEMESIS was a brilliant cameo and let us know how things were going after the events of VOY"Endgame". I wanted more, i.e., a VOY/DS9/NG cast theatrical film.
     
  13. cardinal biggles

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    An error repeated in "Unification, Part I" when Fleet Admiral Brackett briefs Picard on Spock's trip to Romulus.
     
  14. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The Steel Bun returns.

    Two possibilities.

    1. A memorial Hologram created when she was still thought dead, who delivers sensitive information to high ranking officers.

    2. Kathy is back with Mark.
     
  15. Dukhat

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    Not really. All it showed was that Janeway was promoted to an admiral for some reason. It didn't have anything to do with the fates of the rest of the VOY cast, or the fate of the ship itself.
     
  16. Guy Gardener

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    If Janeway had not delivered those orders, then Data would not have died.

    Janeway killed Data.

    That B####!
     
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  17. Tomalak

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    Fleet Admirals are probably just Admirals who are in charge of Fleets in that case.

    The five-star Admiral is presumably the equivalent of the commander-in-chief we see in Star Trek VI. Or maybe they don't have them in TNG, and the Federation President is nominally the only five-star Admiral in the fleet?

    As for Janeway, that never bothered me. It was a nice cameo and served a purpose, even if the dialogue was horrendous.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    There are many fleets.

    By the TNG era, Fleet just means large group, of an unspecified number.

    I was thinking that Andreas Katsulas should have been in Nemesis, since he was possibly the most noticed Romulan from the TNG era. 4 episodes?
     
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  19. The Wormhole

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    What's worse is Pike in Trek XI, instantly promoted from Captain to Four-Star Admiral. Though, this of course is overshadowed by Kirk going from Cadet to Captain instantly.
     
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  20. Bry_Sinclair

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    The tip of the iceberg in the grand scheme of everything wrong with NuTrek, IMO.
     
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