Poll Star Trek 4 - Your Story Preferences?

That's basically the TNG movies aside from First Contact. Earth wasn't involved in the 24th century part of Generations, neither was the rest of the Federation aside from the Starfleet rescue ships at the end. You already covered Insurrection. And Nemesis only has a five minute reception scene on Earth with another two minutes of conversation between Picard and Janeway. Earth is placed under threat for the movie's climax, but has no real role beyond that.

I'll agree with that.

I thought the whole point to rebooting TOS was to go back to TOS styles of storytelling. And truth of the matter is, TOS was action/adventure. Granted, it shouldn't be mindless action (a flaw present in XI and STID) but that doesn't mean it should go the "hard science" route of Gravity, Interstellar, The Martian or whatever.

 

I'm not guessing at what direction I think the franchise will go, merely what my preference for it would be.

And it's less about those movies being hard sci-fi than it is that the scope of those films should be what they shoot for. There's been a trend in the past few years of medium hit movies, with about one a year breaking through to the mainstream, and basking in making space seem relatable. I think that if these Star Trek movies drastically reduced their budgets they could shoot for that audience instead of chasing the superhero crowd.

 

I would like to see more of the Enterprise (A). There were no sickbay or engineering scenes in Beyond. The only new, visually interesting thing we really got on the Enterprise before it was toast was the archive room Spock stows the piece of Abronath in. How about some science lab or rec room scenes?

 

Ah, yes, I can agree with that. Star Trek really should avoid being the tent-pole film, since really, it's never been.

 

I want to see the ent-A in action, more federation starships of different shapes, sizes, and some kind of warping into an area of space markedly different to one we have been shown onscreen...

make it so Paramount!

 

We saw the bar!

 

Something I'd happy for Star Trek to all end with - if this is it for another decade... The ultimate crossover movie. Biblically epic, about three hours long, like a portmanteau horror movie with three tales centuries apart, that collide in the final act, when the Captains share the same scene with Pine & Quinto... in particular Patrick Stewart, Scott Bakula and even Nimoy or Shatner looking as they did decades ago thanks to Tarkinology.

No need for that steam coming out of your ears though. Never going to happen, so just the best Simon Pegg and Doug Jung can come up with about Chris's Pine and Hemsworth meeting.

 

Something like a ST:TMP, essentially a long episode of venturing out into the unknown to deal with a new species/danger/opportunity and/or messing around with the space-time continuum, time travel, maybe encountering "The Traveler" or some other poorly explored but interesting concept. Any novel idea would do.

Just PLEASE don't make it about a villain that needs to be killed.

 

It was rather dim lighting, though.

 

I've worked in bars. Trust me, you WANT the lighting to be dim.

 

^Fair enough. I just wish we'd see the rec room and so on...even the 2013 video game showed us other places on the Enterprise besides the bridge, halls, and transporter room.

 

Yup.

 

I voted for Something completely new - never been done before.

For me, the stories have become formulaic. They have become revenge dramas with sci-fi trappings. I am not paying money to see another revenge drama.

 

I agree. And if the franchise is to be rejuvenated, which I feel a fourth film needs to achieve (or it's basically done for) then we really need to see something creative whilst still spectacular to stand out. As much as i loved beyond, there was still a whiff of generic bad guy-ness running through it. Trek can and should be so much more than this.

 

What's puzzling is that they spend hundreds of millions of dollars on these beautiful and graphically amazing movies, but use stories that are more boring than ~ 50% of your run-of-the-mill Trek episodes that had a fraction of the production cost.

"Powerful evil bad guy needs to be destroyed"

 

I don't find them boring. And, judging from the wide-spread critical and public acclaim, neither do a lot of other people.

 

People like the movies because of how awesome they look visually, the isolated action/funny scenes, not because they're amazing stories where everyone from the start of the movie knows that there's going to be an evil guy that will get killed at the end.

 

What number am I thinking of?

 

34852964.2

 

I think it's because having a conflict with a villain makes for good dialogue between opposing sides. Debate, and universe-view swapping, etc.

Most of the conflict between Kirk and his senior staff is light-hearted, not deep-seated with high stakes and therefore not as dramatic. There's the odd "do the whatever!" "I can't because we need to fix the thing first!" "Insert mock threat to kill you/sarcastic comment about mortality here" "insert angry retort/tension breaking chuckle here".