CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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  1. JE Smith

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    LOL. :)
     
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  2. Smoked Salmon

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    I trust you can demonstrate to me that "fan film" is a legal term.
     
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    Lets just General order 7 Alec and his partner be done with it
     
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    Shit. George Lucas could go make a Star Wars film now, and even though he created the entire goddamn franchise, all he'd be doing is making a fan film because he doesn't own Star Wars anymore.
     
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  5. Serveaux

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    None of those distinctions make a thing a "fan film."

    It would make one "a film using someone's intellectual property without license or permission."

    That's a mouthful, but there's just no way to get it down to a handy acronym that's pronounced or spelled as "fan film."
     
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    Stilted Dialogue... Wooden Delivery... Didn't Lucas already make 3 of those movies?
     
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    According to Peters, on this message board:

    http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=157673&page=5

    the bankruptcy trustee allowed Peters to keep the Propworx IP (business name), suggesting they knew the business would be back at some point. The majority of the debt as held by MGM so my guess is Peters basically gave MGM their property back... he probably paid some legal fees and they left it at that.
     
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    Soon after the trial, I suspect this will be Peters:

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. The Transformed Man

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    No, he made 6 of them...
     
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  10. JE Smith

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    Since when does a word/phrase have to be a "legal term" to have a distinct definition? "Dog" is not a legal term, but it is definitely "not a cat."
     
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    Shot on video and using music composed for earlier works. Hmmmm.
     
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  14. BillJ

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    Just because we don't have a handy definition for crowdsourced films that use professional talent doesn't mean they are fan films.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_film
     
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    That makes sense with respect to the IP. As for legal fees, well, one of Propworx's unsecured creditors was a law firm owed nearly $25,000.
     
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    Bootleg?
     
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    They allowed Peters' to keep the Propworx name because it had zero value. :lol:
     
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    One quick thing I want to point out - consider the talk of 'negotiating'.

    CBS/Paramount does not need anything from Peters, except to get him to stop.

    Peters needs, from CBS/Paramount, a means of keeping his shirt and avoiding a ton of agita, damages, etc.

    The implication that these parties are even close to being on a level playing field is, eh, SMH.

    There are 52 cards in a deck. CBS/Paramount has over 1,000 decks. Axanar is holding (maybe) one of those cards.

    I predict negotiations will be short.
     
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