CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by Richard Baker, Dec 30, 2015.

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  1. Ryan Thomas Riddle

    Ryan Thomas Riddle Vice Admiral Admiral

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    He said it as well on Reddit. Here's an image:

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    Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/startrek/c..._is_settled_is_there_anyone/cymc0rl?context=3
     
  2. Christopher Miles

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    Going by Memory Alpha (and as it's a Wiki, I don't know about its accuracy) Peters seemed to have a good relationship with CBS up to and including 2010.

    One wonders how he lost his way.

    Wait... he wants to become a 501 (c)3?

    Dark Money? SuperPac? While he's fighting a lawsuit?

    Yeah- I know - it's shorthand for a type of not for profit. But still. Not a positive connotation.

    Later this year we'll have read "We were always a non-profit..." aka We were always at war with Oceania.

    Yay! Newspeak!

    Kinda like when you dress up a client before puttin' him up before a judge/jury
     
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  3. BillJ

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    Why wouldn't they file for this a year ago?
     
  4. oswriter

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    Because he probably didn't think of it until yesterday.
     
  5. BillJ

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    I'd also be interested in knowing who is paying for the filing? Setting up as a non-profit can't be cheap or easy.
     
  6. SeerSGB

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    Or he's thinking it'l save his ass in court. Thing is, it's not filed for till after the lawsuit was bought against them it's not going to matter. They were still for-profit at that time.
     
  7. SuperSpaceMan

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    What I noticed about the ST:C filing, is that basically, Far From Home Productions, which was an LLC, had to be wrapped up into Trek Continues Inc. for it to become a non profit. At least, that's what my layman's brain got from it...

    So , with Axanar Productions being incorporated in California as Domestic Stock Company, that means all the money raised, went into a for company Alec owns, (which to his credit, any of the other fan films not currently a non-profit are in the same situation)...

    Why didn't he do this after the first kickstarter when he raised over a half a million dollars is beyond me. It's so bizarre...
     
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    While Trump has had plenty of critical words for other major candidates in the race, like Jeb Bush and Rand Paul, he hasn't said a single word about Jack Fellure.

    Don't know who Jack Fellure is? Neither did I until I checked Wikipedia to find a candidate who doesn't even get into the polls. That's about how important something like Axanar is to CBS.
     
  9. oswriter

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    Okay, I take that back. Peters did mention applying for 501(c)(3) status in a December 11 blog post:

    But there's no mention of applying for 501c3 status anywhere else on the Axanar website or in the annual report.
     
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    Have you ever read the notes behind the Alec Peters entry on Memory Alpha?

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    But at the end of the day, does the 501c3 status really matter if Peters and his girlfriend are pulling a salary developing a film on a copyright that's not theirs?
     
  12. oswriter

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    Far From Home was a one-man LLC--basically an alter ego for Vic Mangona--and the IRS will not grant tax-exempt status to such an entity. In theory, Axanar Productions, Inc., could simply refile its articles as a non-stock, nonprofit without necessarily having to form a new entity.
     
  13. SuperSpaceMan

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    That blog notes that Eric Feig Entertainment Law is their legal counsel as of that blog. It will be interesting to see *IF* they are still their legal counsel as of the filing of their response, to CBS's claims.
     
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    Don't know what sort of lawyers they are but their website is pretty shoddy for a professional org.
     
  16. Harvey

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    Terry McIntosh addressed why they weren't filed as a non-profit when he posted here. Someone can dig that info up if they have the time.

    I believe the jist was: too much paperwork, too much lawyer time (and money) required.
     
  17. BillJ

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    That group has given me a ton of entertainment. It was seriously more important to put the perks person on payroll than to make sure everything was legally sound! :lol:
     
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    I just can't wrap my brain around the theory that somehow CBS is angling to make an offer on or somehow or other take over Axanar as its own. That's just simply delusional. Why would any full-time professional entertainment outlet consider such a thing, when they have the much simpler option of crunching this thing like a cockroach?
     
  19. BillJ

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    That and they're in a town with thousands of talented creators looking for work.
     
  20. Squiggy

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    The fans of course! They own Star Trek in a very real and legally binding sense.

    Now, lets not bicker and argue about who sued who.

    They should do a kickstarter.
     
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