The little details you only catch on the 500th viewing

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by alpha_leonis, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. alpha_leonis

    alpha_leonis Captain Captain

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    Okay, so I haven't literally watched TWOK 500 times, but I've watched it a lot. Most recently last night. And I noticed a couple of details I hadn't paid attention to before.

    • During the Kobayashi Maru, Saavik is wearing one earring, only in her left ear.
    • An entire wall in Spock's quarters is decorated with an IDIC symbol.
    • The entire conversation between Kirk and McCoy in Kirk's apartment felt like it was copied wholesale from the Pike/Boyce conversation in "The Cage".
     
  2. Khan 2.0

    Khan 2.0 Commodore Commodore

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    Rewatching the movies on blu is a good way of noticing 'new' stuff ...Noticed a picture of 2 whales in Kirk cabin in TUC when I watched it for the first time on blu the other day, also a TOS Ent model near the photo of David
     
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  3. pfontaine2

    pfontaine2 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    During the opening credits of seasons 2 and 3 of the original series, two lights on the secondary hull that are closest to the shuttlebay turn off when Kirk says "strange new worlds". I never noticed it until a year ago when I was watching a pre-remastered DVD.

    It's something that hadn't been replicated in the remastered series openings. It's a cool moment, almost subliminally hinting that there's activity inside that massive ship.

    I've often wondered if those lights turning off was intentional or if the lights just happened to die out during filming.
     
  4. alpha_leonis

    alpha_leonis Captain Captain

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    Likewise in the opening credits of TNG, season 2 onwards, take a look at the point where the image pans from the ringed planet to the Enterprise. The stars visible between the planetary rings don't match the motion of the stars on the outside.
     
  5. Albertese

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    I noticed that when it first aired when I was 8 years old! :lol: It's bothered me ever since. I'll never unsee it.

    --Alex
     
  6. drt

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    This.

    Of course, in the first two seasons the sun angle for Saturn was wrong compared to the rest of the planets, which also used to bother me. So they always managed to mess up a ringed planet.
     
  7. Christopher

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    That's because all the animation up to that point replaced what had been made for the first season, and the edge of the rings was used as the split-screen line between the new animation and the old footage of the Enterprise.
     
  8. Tosk

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    Just think of it as a wipe rather than a continuous shot.
     
  9. Dukhat

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    For decades I never knew that they'd stuck in a Planet of the Titans Enterprise study model inside Spacedock in STIII when the Enterprise first enters and sees the Excelsior. Even when it was later pointed out in DVD screencaps I thought it was photoshopped until I saw the scene in question on screen for myself. And I'd watched that movie tons of times before this.
     
  10. 2takesfrakes

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    In STAR TREK II, when Kirk is asking Bones if he wants to beam over to the starbase, Kirstie Alley is mouthing The Shat's lines, until she pops up and gives her General Order speech. In The Voyage Home, when the Bird of Prey is flying over the ocean to stop the whales from getting harpooned, Kirk asks to see it onscreen, where Gillian Taylor responds with "how'd you do that?" only she says it twice. The first time, her voice is deleted, while the camera's focusing on Shatner. Then Hicks gets her close-up and now she says the line and we hear it. Also, in the same movie, as the BoP approaches the Sun for the first time, Kirk goes, "we need breakaway speed ..." only you can see him saying "... Mister Sulu" at the end of it. Why his voice was deleted for Sulu's name, I have no idea. Maybe Sulu doesn't push that button, but it's stupid to stil have it in there. There are a lot of quirky moments and happenings like these in this franchise, that's for sure ...
     
  11. Khan 2.0

    Khan 2.0 Commodore Commodore

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    heh id always imagined that was Savvik rehearsing what she was about to say to Kirk before she said it
     
  12. dg1379

    dg1379 Commander Red Shirt

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    You can see Patrick Stewart mouthing Alfre Woodard during the conference room scene in FC. He clearly mouths "Jean-luc blow up the damn ship!"
     
  13. Tulin

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    I just watched it and I think it's up for dispute.

    He's strung out and tense - he could just be mouthing words to himself. This tracks even more as he trails off and doesn't sync up with Woodard by the end.

    I think it's more a case of somebody wanting to see something that may not be there.
     
  14. Zippo and Flask

    Zippo and Flask Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    A scene in ST III where Kirk and Sulu are jail breaking McCoy from detention. While Kirk asks McCoy, "How many fingers do I have up?", Kirk is making the Vulcan salute. I never noticed that until last year and I’ve been watching the film since it originally premiered.
     
  15. T'Girl

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    According to William Shatner, he's incapable of making the Vulcan hand salute. So what they had to do was tie his fingers together with dental floss for that scene.

    :)
     
  16. Tosk

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    Out of curiosity, without that bit of info what did you think was going on with McCoy's reply?
     
  17. Smellmet

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    How on earth did you ever miss that? it's an in-your-face piss-take/joke/easter egg - take your pick
     
  18. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    Not a little detail so much as a broad one that may have been very obvious to others all along...but last night I put on TWOK in commemoration of Leonard Nimoy's passing, and realized just how much it's Kirk's film...Spock dies in it, but even that is played for how it affects Kirk. It wouldn't be too much of an exaggeration to say that Spock is hardly in the film.
     
  19. Tulin

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    ^ Imagine how Takei feels!
     
  20. Zippo and Flask

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    Just that it was a simple role reversal of the usual situation of a doctor holding up his fingers to a patient who has suffered some kind of trauma and the doctor asking the patient how many fingers he was holding up.