"Agent Carter" season one discussion and spoilers

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  1. DWF

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    The mistake that was made was that followed up on it and kicked Hank out of the Avengers and divorced the Pym's. It's almost as bad as the rape of Carol Danvers. Shooter mishandled both events, but they're both part of the character's history.

    But my original point was that Pym is an entomologist, yet he first built Ultron. And really some of Stark's inventions that were stolen sound outside of of his field of study. He should've stuck to perfecting the flying car. ;)
     
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  2. Turtletrekker

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    Agreed 100% about Carol Danvers, but there was little anything Shooter could have done in the Pym case other than damage control. The pages came in too late too be redrawn and he had to continue on with the story as presented.
     
  3. DWF

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    They followed up it though, but then the Pym marriage was a rocky one for a while.
     
  4. Marsden

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    Marsden is very sad.
    I didn't think it was such a bad thing, in of itself. He married her while he was out of his mind, the guy had a history of problems and that's one of the things that sets, or used to set, Marvel appart from Dem Comics characters that never had any problems at all, well until everything became unrelentingly DARK and GRITTY©®™.
     
  5. Nerys Myk

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    Hank is a biochemist. He only got into entomology because he was trapped in an anthill. His next invention was a cybernetic helmet. So he has some skills in engineering.
     
  6. Christopher

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    Pym is an etymologist? On top of everything else, he studies word origins? Who knew?
     
  7. Forbin

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    I said out, dammit!
    I was gonna, but I thought I'd wait to see if anybody else noticed. :lol:
     
  8. Rush Limborg

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    OKAY...THE FINALE!!!

    (Loved the last ep, BTW--thoughts on it later.)

    Act I:

    Cute to bring back the radio show....

    It's amazing how much Sousa's been able to take. I'm starting to wonder if his leg's really gone, or if it's phantom pains--

    OH, CRAP! SOUSA'S POSSESSED!

    Love that smirk the doc gives Dottie, i.e. "You imbecile."

    Black cop in NY in the 1940s.

    Glad to see Sousa's okay. And glad Peggy's back in everyone's good graces with last ep.

    Thompson needling Sousa about it. :p

    AND...Stark turns himself in for REAL!
     
  9. Rush Limborg

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    Thoughts on the last ep:

    I find it VERY interesting that Peggy doesn't let Sousa off the hook when ripping into the guys for their sexism. Even Sousa...but perhaps Peggy's just making a finer point about how he should've trusted her? Either way, he's accused of viewing her as a damsel in distress....

    Alas, poor Chief. Figures the efforts to make him super-sympathetic were just build-up to his heroic demise.
     
  10. Rush Limborg

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    Act II:

    At last, the truth about Finow. And the explanation for the mooks with no voice boxes....

    "This is private property!" I am of Mother Russia--ve despise priwate property!

    Turns it AROUND: "This is fine now." Heh-heh.

    OOH...he took the blood!
     
  11. kitik

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    Lol, Stark took the blood, that may or may no longer contain Steve's blood. Ivchenko could have switched it. Peggy could have switched. Maybe now Howard could switch it. By the end of the ep, no clue whether it'll be real or not, or who could have it.
     
  12. Rush Limborg

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    Act III:

    Love the Barbara Stanwick crack. And that Thompson's giving the speech Howard is dictating!

    Oh, crap. Spies...everywhere.

    Whoa...that--is diabolical. "Destroy the symbol."

    And Howard flirting with Dottie and either not remembering or pretending not to so as to provoke her. It certainly worked.
     
  13. Rush Limborg

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    Act IV:

    I love Jarvis's face as he confesses about the hangar...and Peggy's reaction.

    Howard, you can be an idiot when it comes to spilling secrets to beautiful women.

    Why is there no mention of Gen. McGuiness? Or is the doc indicating "He is already dead, so you vill have to do." If so, I wish he'd say something like that.

    Wow. I love it--Howard's deepest regret, in the end, is not being able to save Cap.
     
  14. DWF

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    I finally recognized Ralph Brown but it's been at least a decade since I'd seen him in The Phantom Menace and on Lexx.
     
  15. Rush Limborg

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    Act V:

    Ooooooooooooh boy--Jarvis volunteering for what might be an heroic sacrifice.

    So of course Dottie's got Matrix skills.

    Okay--Peggy, do NOT assume she's dead. DO NOT!

    Okay...time for Thompson to have his night--

    Guess not. The night's Sousa.

    Okay, the villain's taunt. Sousa, you KNOW he's stalling--do NOT let him touch that ring....

    OOOH, THOMPSON!

    "Was he saying something!" Good!

    Okay...here we go....
     
  16. kitik

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    Nice one Sousa.
     
  17. Rush Limborg

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    Act VI:

    Wow. Powerful scene...bringing everything full circle.

    Figures Dottie's body's gone.

    Thompson called her "Peggy", not "Margie". And he's the new Chief.

    Good to see Peggy's friend didn't 1) die, or 2) turn out bad.

    Great moment with the blood. And "The Way You Look Tonight"....

    Oh, crap. OH...CRAP!!! OH, CRAP--OH, CRAP--OH, CRAP!!!
     
  18. The Old Mixer

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    ZOLA!!!!!!!
     
  19. DEWLine

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    Yep.

    The punch line.

    What happened to Agent 33 wasn't out of the blue, was it.
     
  20. kitik

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    Yeah really, she was just a plain old real person. How do you like that!

    Nice little surprise Hydra cameo there at the end.


    Good call by Peggy too on the blood. It was probably the best way to protect Steve's legacy.

    A little surprising that Thompson got put in charge at the end there. Perhaps season 2, if there is one, will focus more on the founding of Shield and Peggy being put in charge.

    And while she turned down Sousa due to "other plans", that looked like a genuine smile to me while she was standing there thinking about what he just asked. So I think she intended to take him up on the offer soon enough.