Spoilers What are your unpopular Sci-Fi & Fantasy Opinions?

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  1. JD

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    I liked it when I watched it a few months ago. It's not as good as the first two, but it's still enjoyable.
     
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  2. fireproof78

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    PC was not but I think they inserted a lot of conflict to make up drama. But, that's fair and part of the adaptation process. But, it also feels very repetitive with Peter being a jerk to Edmund in both the first movie and PC. I feel like more time could have been given to just a better understanding of Caspian than what we got.

    But, it's also been a number of years since I have seen the film. I think the biggest thing that PC struggled with that the first film really got right was a sense of magic. VDT got closer but still lacked something.
    I am a big fan of the movie and I honestly am always just a little bit surprised when people don't like it. It's a fairly simple story but a very exciting concept. I never quite understood the detractors.
     
  3. Owain Taggart

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    Yeah, I agree. It even has a sort of Indiana Jones vibe going on at the beginning with the expedition and discovery, and it's always something I felt the movie did well. I understand that the TV series was popular, but I never felt it reached the same level.
     
  4. ToddKent

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    I dislike the current trend in scifi for time traveling to create a new, separate timeline (and essentially a brand new universe) instead of changing the hero's actual timeline. It takes all the stakes out of a time travel story.

    If you change the past, it doesn't matter. You've just created a brand new timeline that doesn't effect your own life. It then stops being time travel and becomes dimension hopping (or "sliding" if you're in the 90s).

    Imagine if this were applied to a story like "Back to the Future." Marty would be under no pressure to get his parents back together because he's in a different timeline/universe and his timeline/universe would remain unaffected.

    The one time I really like it though was the 2009 Star Trek movie because it gave them the ability to do a remake that still had ties to the original universe.
     
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  5. fireproof78

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    I shared this in the controversial Star Trek thread but I'll share a modified version here. I am tired of time travel in general now. I don't care if it is popular, if it is a trope, or whatnot. It has been overdone to the point that I can't help but roll my eyes at the mention of another possible time travel situation.

    It raises too many questions in terms of how the time travel works, or if it is an alternate dimension, or how I should care in the outcome. I guess it would depend on how the story is crafted. But, time travel is becoming a very quick way for me to become less interested.
     
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  6. ToddKent

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    If anything, I'm starting to prefer the Doctor Who type of time travel where there are no rules and nothing really matters that much. It's essentially just used as a way to get the heroes to a new setting for a new adventure.
     
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  7. TREK_GOD_1

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    Often its a gimmick used by lazy hacks who lack the ability to show far-reaching or even personal consequences in a single timeline. The easy way out is to scribble out alternate timelines where--as you say--its is really of no consequence to the hero, because subconsciously, he's not going to invest himself into what happens as he would if his reality were at risk.

    This is why for a franchise like Star Trek, time travel stories have only worked well a few times--mainly in TOS, where in each, major case ("Tomorrow is Yesterday", "The City on the Edge of Forever" and "Assignment: Earth"), the tension was high because the heroes were dealing with their own timeline--there's grave risk with their every decision, which is not there when the lazy kind of writer starts pulling endless alternate timelines out of his butt.

    Yes.
     
  8. theenglish

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    Although The Doctor has had some pretty creative uses of time travel over the years. In the modern era, Matt Smith's adventures were particularly creative and fun--while still playing fast and loose with any time travel rules.
     
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    Starchaser: The Legend of Orin is-voice acting issues aside in places-a perfectly serviceable animated film.

    The Dragonheart series of films deserves better recognition than it gets.