Well, FWIW, he's just telling it like it is. I never much cared for "Lucky Charms" as a character and an actor.
Transformers: Age of Extinction - Grading & Discussion
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The language is crude, but to be fair it is about an of-age actress so it's not like I'm being crude towards a minor. It's also done for "effect" to accentuate the creepiness of the scene/topic.
But, as others have pointed out, the point still stands. Here we're presented with a character who carries with him a laminated card concerning the age of consent/Romeo and Juliet Law of Texas. This guy has run afoul of the law or parents so much that he made up this little card and not only that went and LAMINATED IT! That's a lot of damn work to go through, I don't even put that much work into the card in my wallet I keep all of my work-related passwords on. Shit, why did Bay hold back? Why didn't the guy keep the card on a lanyard around his neck and under his shirt?
It also adds nothing to the character or his arc (it actually takes quite a bit away from the character) as it's not meaningful to anything that the relationship between him and the daughter is legal. It's just some wink at the audience that we're supposed to feel.... good(?) for this guy that he can legally sleep with a 17-year-old girl?
And what is brought to the story by all of the references he makes in front of and too her father that he has slept with her and is going to sleep with her?
Just typical Bayness.
Also, for what is worth, if I understand correctly, the Romeo and Juliet law in Texas does not make the older offender immune from prosecution if he's caught in a relationship with a minor. It only means they won't have to register as a sex offender, so long as the younger party is over 15 and there's not more than a 4-year age gap between the two. They can still be charged with a crime, arrested and prosecuted.
So his little laminated card isn't doing anything for him.
doubleohfive
Fleet Admiral
Entirely so. This is my point.
Well then that makes it ok then!
Fair enough.
I actually agree with your point and was not disputing it.
As I said, I'm absolutely certain you could have phrased it better. That's all.
MST3K/Rifftrax's Mike Nelson on Transformers 4 via his Facebook feed yesterday:
Except wasn't Megatron frozen on Earth six decades before Sentinel even left Cybertron?
That was really what it felt like. I guess I just wasn't part of the target audience for this one.
I just read Rob Bricken's spoiler FAQ on io9, and now my brain is broken. 
Not exactly. Dark of the Moon stated that the Ark left Cybertron in the final days of the war and crashed on the Moon in 1961. The film leaves a plot hole, however, in that nobody noticed that the Ark was still intact after being hit by the missiles. It's explained in a tie-in text story that the explosion triggered the space bridge pillars, causing the Ark to randomly jump through space and time until it locked onto the Allspark's signature in 1961 and thus ended up on the Moon while Megatron was already frozen.
I just read Rob Bricken's spoiler FAQ on io9, and now my brain is broken.
Yeah, I read that the other day. Good review, the other "Spoiler FAQ's" he's done on other movies are just as good too. I'm usually not a fan of the FAQ method of delivering a comedy article as it often comes across too much as the author talking to himself. But the i09 spoiler FAQs really seem to work for me.
Didn't you watch the movie? The Ark left Cybertron way before 1961 at some point while Cybertron was still inhabited. The text story Convergence specified that no one knew it was intact because it time-traveled several times until it ended up in 1961.
If you're still confused, this should clear things up. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Movie_timeline
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I don't think reading and analyzing the timeline and occurrences in these movies is really worth it. For some movie series, sure, it can be nice to nail down a timeline but I don't think the movies are even trying to be coherently connected in any way and form other than thinly and tangentially.
Over the course of the original three movies we're presented with three separate plans the Decepticons and others apparently had to destroy/take-over earth even though each plan seems to pretty much conflict with the others.
This movie *sort* of changes that idea some but it's still there.
There's no world-building universe idea here it's just throw everything you have out there and let people "enjoy" it.
It would have been *nice* if Michael Bay maybe had a plan, or an arc planned but that'd be asking him to be able to think further ahead than his own nose and considering we're talking about a man that can't hold a camera on a single shot for longer than a moment or two, that's asking too much.
All of the plans by the antagonists in these movies are just MacGuffins, an excuse to make action and noise. There's no story, there's no world here. Just nonsense.
For example, this movie seems to take place a few years after the events of the third movie but, really, it felt like much more time has passed in order for Chicago to rebuild, for transformers to be so rare, scarce and almost mythical to some degree. It really felt decades had passed between movies the way Transformers and the previous movies were talked about. When it'd only been a few years.
Just very odd and, well, typical Michael Bay.
Over the course of the original three movies we're presented with three separate plans the Decepticons and others apparently had to destroy/take-over earth even though each plan seems to pretty much conflict with the others.
This movie *sort* of changes that idea some but it's still there.
There's no world-building universe idea here it's just throw everything you have out there and let people "enjoy" it.
It would have been *nice* if Michael Bay maybe had a plan, or an arc planned but that'd be asking him to be able to think further ahead than his own nose and considering we're talking about a man that can't hold a camera on a single shot for longer than a moment or two, that's asking too much.
All of the plans by the antagonists in these movies are just MacGuffins, an excuse to make action and noise. There's no story, there's no world here. Just nonsense.
For example, this movie seems to take place a few years after the events of the third movie but, really, it felt like much more time has passed in order for Chicago to rebuild, for transformers to be so rare, scarce and almost mythical to some degree. It really felt decades had passed between movies the way Transformers and the previous movies were talked about. When it'd only been a few years.
Just very odd and, well, typical Michael Bay.
I did see the film, but I think you can excuse someone for not "getting" how all the pieces supposedly fit together. Your link was very helpful actually, so thank you. Not for the timeline, but for this introductory text:
Pretty much what I figured.
If y'all don't peruse the Transformers Wiki at http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page, then you should! Wait till you get to the club-exclusive interdimensional crossovers.
This should help lessen the sour taste of the film
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Mister Fandango
Fleet Captain
I'll see that and raise you
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Thats rather amusing, I caught a bit of one recently in a murder mysterious spoof. And I recognised its from Desertion of the Dinobots which I still regard as rather good, I grew up with it loved the film when I was younger and had a lot of the toys, even now got the classics on dvd and also original Starscream & Optimus Prime toys, but the new films? Horrible for reasons already stated.
This wasn't the worst of the series but it wasn't the best. Firstly IMO the battle scenes were way to long and the film at over 3 hours with previews was way long.
Second, could they possibly pander to Asian audiences anymore. The Samurai transformer, the dragon transformers, an added in for good meaure making the CIA the complete villains in this film and the Defense Minister of China one of the good guys - was over the top. No doubt the Chinese officials to released this film in the country + the overall themes will make it no only popular but positive propaganda.
And shit - was with the over-the-top product placements throughout the film? The only thing missing was a Bud Light for each of the audience members when they entered the theater and brands like Victoria Secret get way to much exposure. Weren't they sure the film would make enough money? I'm sure Bud and Secret paid a hefty sum for all of the branding.
As said above, making the rogue CIA the villains in this film - more so than the evil Transformers seemed way to cliche'. it's as if the White House was completely ineffectual at controlling the CIA - not realistic imo.
I forget the characters name already, but the Steve Jobs billionaire owner of the human created transformers company was another over-the-top cliche' character. The writers smacked us over the head about making him Jobs and Apple like in terms of a corporate identity.
Second, could they possibly pander to Asian audiences anymore. The Samurai transformer, the dragon transformers, an added in for good meaure making the CIA the complete villains in this film and the Defense Minister of China one of the good guys - was over the top. No doubt the Chinese officials to released this film in the country + the overall themes will make it no only popular but positive propaganda.
And shit - was with the over-the-top product placements throughout the film? The only thing missing was a Bud Light for each of the audience members when they entered the theater and brands like Victoria Secret get way to much exposure. Weren't they sure the film would make enough money? I'm sure Bud and Secret paid a hefty sum for all of the branding.
As said above, making the rogue CIA the villains in this film - more so than the evil Transformers seemed way to cliche'. it's as if the White House was completely ineffectual at controlling the CIA - not realistic imo.
I forget the characters name already, but the Steve Jobs billionaire owner of the human created transformers company was another over-the-top cliche' character. The writers smacked us over the head about making him Jobs and Apple like in terms of a corporate identity.
Yeah! Fuck other nations and cultures!
'Merica!