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‘Star Trek 3′: Roberto Orci Wants to Direct

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Anyone who makes the distinction between professional writer and fanboy is likely to be wrong anyways. Fans can be anything, even writers and directors. So the idea "fan vs. pro" is a fallacy to begin with.

Except that "fans" sometimes think they know what's best for the franchise, when they really don't.

Geez, are you guys really bitching about the choice of a word? Talk about diverting from the actual topic

It's a very strong word. Think about it this way: if someone here called you psychotic, would you think they meant something else ?

Great going Paramount :rolleyes:. Just proved beyond shadow of a doubt that you don't give a shit about Trek.

Come on, now. If they didn't care about Star Trek they would have let it die after Nemesis.

Who needs quality and integrity when you have CGI, a million dollar marketing campaign, Xplosions!!!, T&A, and a foreign market who will pretty much watch any American movie with Xplosions!!!

Hyperbole doesn't help your case.
 
He wouldn't be my first choice but I have no reason to think that a first time director can't be good. I'm sure he'll get plenty of help in his work and I'll wait to see how it all turns out.

Besides, getting Orci to direct is worth it just for all the hilarious stupidity that's going to follow on the internet. And it has already begun.
 
Nah, if the last movie was like any of the crap fan ideas they never would have left the academy, or it would have been about the Klingons in Klingon with subtitles, or it would have been a Nemesis sequel that would have crammed every Trek character ever into it, or it would have been some uber Enterprise with fanwanky tech in another galaxy captained by either Picard's nephew's cousin's grandson's tribble's college roommate's son or just some random alien character, or just some random guy who's crew is basically a checklist of ethnic groups and alien races.
All of these sound awesome. And I just realized I'm only halfway being facetious, which is the truly horrifying thing.
 
Time for Orci to put up or shut up. I'll be intrigued to see the results.
 
I'm thinking, halfway through, I start to cry and then I have to crawl out of the theater and I'm just no... no... I canna be a hater captain, I'm giving it all I've got! And it doesn't work. And I start to feel old, really old, used up and just over everything. And then I die.
 
Funny thing is, I actually think Orci directing means more of the kind of things dyed-in-the-wool fans of Star Trek want to see. And that fits in with a film released in time for the 50th Anniversary. I guess we'll see.
 
So. Fan wank X 10,000?
Seemed to work fine for Doctor Who's 50th.

Having read somewhere that he was resistant to bringing Khan back, that should give you some hope. Having John Harrison be Khan was exactly that. Darkness would've been better without all that baggage and just one rogue Starfleet operative against Admiral Marcus.
 
In THIS podcast from last September, Orci goes into depth about Star Trek Into Darkness and touches on his hopes for an exploration story for Star Trek 3. He also mentions his conspiracy stuff at the end and how it reflected on the themes of ID.
 
I think he's adorable, and I want to pinch his cheeks. Speaking of cheeks, I love your avatar, teacake.
 
Well, that's disappointing.

I think it's pretty much what needed to happen.

Certainly it's a golden chance for Orci, his moment to rise to the occasion, produce something genuinely brilliant and either silence or convert the naysayers. Speaking as one of the naysayers, I hope he manages it; I never have nor ever will root for someone to fail to entertain me.

Meanwhile, if he produces something passably mediocre but profitable, the naysayers can resign themselves once and for all to JJ-and-Not-So-Silent-BobTrek being the shape of the franchise for the next generation. And everyone can hopefully finally relax and take a little of the edge off.

And if he goes down in flames, then we can all start arguing about the next incarnation of Trek, and my Draft Oliver Stone campaign can really get off the ground.

There's basically no downside here; every possible outcome produces either better Trek, more closure or more possibility. I'm interested to see which way it goes.

You're not wrong. But my initial feeling is that of disappointment. I disliked STID. I did feel slightly better about it on a second viewing but still didn't like it. It's a film done by committee and there are weird hangovers from other drafts still present in the final version. Maybe with Orci at the helm, Lindelof nowhere in sight (the person most thrown under the bus by everyone involved from the majority of fan's problems with the films, even if the people don't mean to throw him under there)* and Kurtzman separating we're likely to get a more focused film that doesn't feel so... compromised.

I was hoping for someone exciting and different from the Abrams crowd to play with the things Abrams & Co. put in place. The rumors of Joe Cornish really excited me. But this just seems like a way to give Orci his first directing credit while skirting Union rules about who can be called a director versus time on set and all the vagaries involved.

I try not to rip on the movie - and I did really love Trek 2009 - I was kind of hoping there'd be news that Trek XIII would feel a bit fresher but it seems we're going to get more of the same.

*Though, 2013 was oddly the year for people involved in films to separate themselves from unpopular portions of films they worked on, even when those films were unqualified successes that didn't need the justification. Why did Christopher Nolan go out of his way to say he disagreed with the ending of Man of Steel?
 
I'm just like what? British sea power WHAT? Okay Falklands but other than that anachronism what hey?

Oh and I love 2009 too, I'm basically in love with it. The next one lah de lah, not in love but hey it's a worthy addition etc..

I'm scared to death I will never love again.
 
^ At the time I created the account, I was obsessively reading David Howarth's A Brief History of British Sea Power. Also the band of the same name had just come into existence.
 
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