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Does it bother you Riker got the USS Titan and not a Galaxy class?

It doesn't bother me because a Galaxy class was fairly dated by the time of Nemesis.

Although others suggested to Riker that he never left because he wanted to stay on a Galaxy class, I always understood the true reason was the Enterprise was family. With his getting married and all that, I could see it being time. I don't really pay attention to the novels and the show certainly isn't bound by them, so the details there don't really matter to me.
 
As others have said already, there's nothing in canon to suggest the USS Titan isn't a Galaxy Class. Plenty of non-canon sources do, yes, but... they're non-canon. :p
 
Three points:

1. As everyone here has said, there is no canon design for the Titan, so we are all free to speculate what kind of ship it is.

2. The impression I always got from Nemesis is that Riker's command was the biggest, baddest new ship in the fleet. I mean, isn't that why it was named the Titan? (for the uninitiated, the Titans were a group of extremely powerful gods in Greek mythology). So what does Pocket Books do? Make the ship small, and take the name out of context (of Nemesis, anyway) by establishing that the name was in fact meant to represent one of Saturn's moons.

3. As for Riker passing up command after command: To this day I have always felt that it would have been a better move for TNG to have had an eighth season in which everyone's personal stories are wrapped up and they go their separate ways. Picard and Crusher would get married and retire, Riker would get married to Trio and finally take command of the Enterprise that he always wanted, Worf would return to the Klingon homeworld, and Data would get command of his own ship, bringing Geordi along to be his XO. But instead they went the movie route because that was more money in their pockets, and the result was four mediocre films with Kirk's silly death, the loss of our favorite ship by incredibly silly means just to have it discarded for some new soulless replacement, the total suspension of disbelief of this same crew serving together for 9 more years, the stupidity of the Borg Queen, Patrick Stewart increasingly playing himself rather than Jean-Luc Picard, and the overall theme of the "Picard and Data Show" to the detriment of the other cast, with the final denouement of having Data die an incredibly silly death just to leave his idiot brother singing silly songs.
 
It doesn't bother me because a Galaxy class was fairly dated by the time of Nemesis.

I imagine that the Galaxy, like the Excelsior before it, is the B-52 of Starfleet. A ruddy big beast that'll be contiguously modernized and upgraded to remain in service, even as the rest of the fleet is scrapped and re-designed around it. I think around the time of Nemesis they'd still be considered pretty important and prestigious commands... after all, a 20 year old aircraft carrier requires a lot more responsibility and command ability than a brand new destroyer.

That said, I don't think Riker would get such a juicy posting for his first permanent command. The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe: he'll get a freighter. :p
 
2. The impression I always got from Nemesis is that Riker's command was the biggest, baddest new ship in the fleet. I mean, isn't that why it was named the Titan? (for the uninitiated, the Titans were a group of extremely powerful gods in Greek mythology). So what does Pocket Books do? Make the ship small, and take the name out of context (of Nemesis, anyway) by establishing that the name was in fact meant to represent one of Saturn's moons.

But to be fair, it is the biggest and baddest of Saturn's moons! ;)
 
Well with the end of the Dominion War, I think Riker was lucky to get a new class starship. There should be lots of Senior Captains out there looking to pounce on an open command of a Galaxy, Sovereign or - what is it a Luna class? - starship. Lots of Captains lost ships during the war, presumably they have the seniority over Riker to get top of the line ships. He should have taken the first command offered to him to be higher up on the list. Then again the Aries might have been blown out of space during the Dominion war.

Also after the events of Best of Both Worlds, I expect a Riker to receive an order saying: You have been promoted to Captain. The Enterprise will rendezvous with the USS Cannon Fodder to take you to your command. Sincerely, Admiral Jack Has, Starfleet Command.
 
But instead they went the movie route because that was more money in their pockets, and the result was four mediocre films with Kirk's silly death, the loss of our favorite ship by incredibly silly means just to have it discarded for some new soulless replacement, the total suspension of disbelief of this same crew serving together for 9 more years, the stupidity of the Borg Queen, Patrick Stewart increasingly playing himself rather than Jean-Luc Picard, and the overall theme of the "Picard and Data Show" to the detriment of the other cast, with the final denouement of having Data die an incredibly silly death just to leave his idiot brother singing silly songs.

WOW! I'll mark this day (Occam's Commemoration Day, BTW) in my calendar, we wholeheartedly agree on the same thing, for once.
:beer:

Bob
 
If you've ever tried to steer a bloody Galaxy-class in Star Trek Online, you'd be happy for Riker that he didn't get one. They move like a sick cow compared to almost everything else. ;)
 
3. As for Riker passing up command after command: To this day I have always felt that it would have been a better move for TNG to have had an eighth season in which everyone's personal stories are wrapped up and they go their separate ways. Picard and Crusher would get married and retire, Riker would get married to Trio and finally take command of the Enterprise that he always wanted, Worf would return to the Klingon homeworld, and Data would get command of his own ship, bringing Geordi along to be his XO.

Why would season 8 have Riker and Troi get married? Season seven was all about showing Troi and Worf having feelings. All Good Things had a pretty major plot about Riker accepting their relationship. It was only the destruction of the Enterprise and Worf's transfer to Deep Space Nine (where he met Jadzia) that gave room for Riker and Troi to get back together (I guess Worf isn't big on long-distance relationships).
 
Not in the slightest, size isn't everything and from the novels writeup on the class a Luna was designed from the ground up as an advanced long ranger explorer.

What bothers me more now thinking about it is that Riker was field promoted to Captain and then back down to Commander during and after the events of the BoBW. After commanding the Enterprise to victory saving Earth, the Federation and further from the Borg it seems odd that he wasn't given the Enterprise full time!

After going through what he did Picard should have been in therapy for a long time after and I can't imagine being given back the Enterprise as soon as he did (although I am not sure how long leave lasted for the refit).

So to answer the OP, no the Luna is quite a nice looking ship and is the one I am choosing once I reach that level in STO (even if my current character is a Tactical Captain).
 
I guess Worf isn't big on long-distance relationships.
That would've been a hell of a challenge to write for, wouldn't it? I just can't picture Worf "on the phone" with Deanna, babbling all that "I miss you. It's been so long since I've held you in my arms ..." stuff and wherever else they wanted to take a call like that. He could've tried a Holodeck Deanna, but I suspect he would be turned off by that, sooner than later. It would've been very interesting to see how DS9 would've handled a Klingon in a long distance love affair, though. What a shame we never got that ...
 
Does it bother anyone that Riker was assigned to the USS Titan, a ship basically the size of Voyager, instead of a Galaxy class?

The size of the Titan has never been canocially established. For all we know, it's twice the size of the Enterprise-E.

But no, it doesn't bother me at all if it were smaller. Is there a reason it should?
 
Eh, Sisko was in a long-distance relationship for awhile. One easy way to do it is to just not have it happen on screen and don't have Worf get into any romances with other people in the meantime. Maybe occasionally Worf could mention Troi or have O'Brian ask about her and that would settle that.

However, if the goal is to have Worf in a romance on screen, that's clearly not the best way to go because Marina Sirtis isn't likely to become an every day character.

I'm personally glad he went with Jadzia because their relationship was far better than Worf-Troi (which I was never really a fan of). I'm just pointing out that's where Season 7 of TNG ended.
 
Does it bother anyone that Riker was assigned to the USS Titan, a ship basically the size of Voyager, instead of a Galaxy class?

The size of the Titan has never been canocially established. For all we know, it's twice the size of the Enterprise-E.

But no, it doesn't bother me at all if it were smaller. Is there a reason it should?

Technically, Titan's class was never established either, but the Luna class is 450 M, the commonly and apocryphally accepted class of Titan at this point, is oddly larger than Voyager (344 M), with half the photon torpedo bays and a third of the phaser arrays that an Intrepid class has.

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Luna_class

But considering all the Riker haters coming out of the woodwork, I guess the consensus is Riker should be grateful he wasn't assigned an Oberth Class. :shrug:
 
Canonically we don't know what class the Titan was, it could be a Galaxy-Class (or a Prometheus- or an Excelsior-Class).

Unless we get another series set in the proper Trek universe, that specifically states what kind of ship he got we'll never really know.

Personally I can see Riker commanding a Nebula-Class.
 
Does it bother anyone that Riker was assigned to the USS Titan, a ship basically the size of Voyager, instead of a Galaxy class?

Well, Riker kept turning down commands, so I'm sure starfleet stopped offering their best ships. So that left the Enterprise, the ship he resisted leaving. But, it's not like Picard was going anywhere. I think that was out of spite following Riker's comment that he wanted "a shot at this chair some day."

Picard: (to himself) "Not bloody likely..."

Nah, it doesn't bother me. It wouldn't matter if it did. The real question is, does it bother Riker?
 
But considering all the Riker haters coming out of the woodwork, I guess the consensus is Riker should be grateful he wasn't assigned an Oberth Class. :shrug:

Riker hater? Personally, I loved the character during the first two seasons of TNG. But there's not much there once you suck the swagger and drive out of the character, which is what they did starting in season three.

...in the proper Trek universe...

Good to know that people never miss a chance to bash. :rolleyes:
 
1-Riker was Number One for so long it was unbelievable he got command of anything by then.

2-Riker was ex-Imzadi for so long it was unbelievable he got married to anything by then. (Not that Worf+Troi was any more believable either).

From 1 and 2 above, it follows that NEM sucks at wrapping the TNG series.
 
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