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Plenty of people in the past kissed without having sex at the end of a date, so that really still doesn't make sense.

My current girlfriend and I kissed on our first date. A lot! It lasted 10 hours, the last few of which was spent in her car watching Trigun waiting for her sister to arrive by bus.

We didn't have sex for months.
Now that's what I call love and peace!
 
When I started dating again I said very bluntly that there wouldn't be any kissing at the end of the date. I was willing to do other things before kissing, really.

Really? That's interesting. I don't think I've ever known anyone to do that. :)

I remember my high school years where I dated one of the most conservative Christian girls in the entire school (not a fundamentalist, just conservative), and we kissed at the end of our first date. She was very sweet, and oh so very smart. I still feel a pang of sadness that it didn't work out.

Must...not...ask J for her number...MUST...NOT...

Oh, I'm pretty certain she's married by now. It's been 16 years. I haven't kept up contact, as that does often happen when we all leave our high school years.
 
When I started dating again I said very bluntly that there wouldn't be any kissing at the end of the date. I was willing to do other things before kissing, really.

Really? That's interesting. I don't think I've ever known anyone to do that. :)

Kissing felt really intimate and I wasn't ready to do that or have sex initially. Eventually I was more comfortable kissing but realized I didn't want to have sex with anyone that I wasn't serious/in love with, so I stopped casually dating altogether.
 
When I started dating again I said very bluntly that there wouldn't be any kissing at the end of the date. I was willing to do other things before kissing, really.

Really? That's interesting. I don't think I've ever known anyone to do that. :)

Kissing felt really intimate and I wasn't ready to do that or have sex initially. Eventually I was more comfortable kissing but realized I didn't want to have sex with anyone that I wasn't serious/in love with, so I stopped casually dating altogether.

It seems to have worked well for you, if I may say so. You seem much happier. :)
 
I thought a simple kiss (so long as both parties are willing) is a polite and commonplace way to end a first date that went well. I had no idea it makes you a crazed sex fiend.
Right? Because I've kissed a number of people I haven't ended up having sex with. The idea that a kiss at the end of the first date just means the person is interested in sex would be offensive if it wasn't so absurd.
I know my views may be old-fashioned. As a widower who lost his soul mate to a distracted driver, I tend to compare future mates to the high standards we shared. Why would I want someone who is not compatible?

IDIC is more than GR's commercial gimmick. It means 3 things:
1 -"Can't we all just get along?"
2 -"Live and let live."
3 -We are all different, yet together we are complete.

I don't dislike you based upon the standards you set. Please don't dislike me for mine. :techman:
No one has judged you for whatever personal standards you choose to live by. If you don't want to kiss on a first date, that's your business. It's when you treat your personal preferences as the standard for all others to follow, or look down on those who do something different, that people tend to call you on it.

You insinuated that kissing on a first date is indicative of people who are only interested in dating for sex as if it were fact for everyone. That's not true, and people pointed that out. That's all.

Also, throwing out IDIC as a philosophical afterthought doesn't give one carte blanche to be rude or judgmental beforehand. People on this board misuse and abuse the meaning of IDIC only slightly less than they do political correctness.
 
I once had sex with a girl, but only kissed her afterwards. However, I'm not foolish enough to assume that sex always leads to kissing!

Mr Awe
 
Why, I never! Didn't you know that after a girl has sex with you and then she nags and nags about kissing and then you give in and kiss her, you'll never see her again?
 
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