Very nice.
concept art and set photos!
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Very nice.
That sounds like a good bet. (Besides, if it had been a James Bond reference, you'd have people grousing that the movie used a DB5 to show off Aston-Martin's newest model, while in the novel the chapter title was "Thoughts in a DB III".)^^^ @ Praetor - Yep, that thought occured to me a few posts back as well...
'great minds' and all that...
Interestingly, the designation next to the USS Enterprise appears to be VH-5 / VB-5 - so I'm not quite sure (if DB means Docking Bay) what this designation could mean...
(Vehicle Bay 5, Vehicle Hanger 5???)
The smaller constitutition class starship (the mini-connie) has what appears to be the designation: AF / AP, while the even smaller Excelsior starship has VB (?)
The plot thickens...
Hm. So maybe the second letter refers to type and the first letter refers to general class. Vehicle, Heavy (Cruiser) 5?
Meh. Now I'm just reaching.
Interestingly, the designation next to the USS Enterprise appears to be VH-5 / VB-5 - so I'm not quite sure (if DB means Docking Bay) what this designation could mean...
(Vehicle Bay 5, Vehicle Hanger 5???)
The smaller constitutition class starship (the mini-connie) has what appears to be the designation: AF / AP, while the even smaller Excelsior starship has VB (?)
The plot thickens...
Hm. So maybe the second letter refers to type and the first letter refers to general class. Vehicle, Heavy (Cruiser) 5?
Meh. Now I'm just reaching.
I think you may be onto something! Rather than being obvious abrieviations, the letters may indeed stand for individual designations (as you've suggested), not unlike a vehicle registration.With the powers of our communal Trek BBS intellects, this code will be cracked!
It's actually the same set and stage. Once filming was done on Enterprise - they redressed the entire set for Vengeance. it's on the DVD extras.
That post is from May, though - made on the day after the movie opened in the US. That the set was a redress was guessed, but at that time not known for certain.
New footage from ILM on YouTube!
New details on San Francisco and the 1701 hangar bay!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-M3lFtPLGI
New details on San Francisco and the 1701 hangar bay!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-M3lFtPLGI
Fantastic thank you!
I've been wanting a good look at that shuttlebay for months. And future-San Francisco is gorgeous.
Here goes...
First, for those who still think the new Enterprise is the same size as the old one:
(and that 26ft for the TOS shuttle is based on the interior, not the undersized exterior prop)
Now, some bad news for those who, like me, want the new Enterprise to be consistently scaled at 725m...
It seems I was right when I originally guessed that they built the shuttlebay model using the early 1200m scale. Therefore the shuttlebay and primary hull details (bridge window, exposed decks after the Vengeance attack etc) are inconsistent.
And here's a wireframe of the shuttlebay. It may be too big, but it's still gorgeous.
First, for those who still think the new Enterprise is the same size as the old one:
(and that 26ft for the TOS shuttle is based on the interior, not the undersized exterior prop)
Now, some bad news for those who, like me, want the new Enterprise to be consistently scaled at 725m...
It seems I was right when I originally guessed that they built the shuttlebay model using the early 1200m scale. Therefore the shuttlebay and primary hull details (bridge window, exposed decks after the Vengeance attack etc) are inconsistent.
And here's a wireframe of the shuttlebay. It may be too big, but it's still gorgeous.
I'd say that's about right.
Tell me people don't still think that, do they?
There would definitely be room for another deck at the back, owing to the tapering hull.
I'm afraid so, although to do so one has to mentally censor the bridge window and corridor outside, the 16-deck corridor plaza, the engine room, the warp core engine room (it's too wide and too tall) and shuttlebay, saucer rim decks and the weapons bay. In short, everything but the general exterior shape.
It's amazing they can suspend disbelief that much, but not that this Starfleet builds bigger.
Definitely!
In the PS3 game you can walk around nearly the entire (to scale) hanger bay. Waypoints to other parts of the ship give accurate distances from it to say the bridge, transporter rooms etc (generally 500+ meters).
Then again, there *is* a 300m version of the Constitution class shown on the 'power wall' with a different designation to the Enterprise.
There are two variants, or two classes, keeping the old and new sizes. Apparently that isn't enough for some people.
Then again, there *is* a 300m version of the Constitution class shown on the 'power wall' with a different designation to the Enterprise.
There are two variants, or two classes, keeping the old and new sizes. Apparently that isn't enough for some people.
I'll be back with more shuttlebay stuff in a bit, but for now...
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_36xOkTZb0[/YT]
Here's a much more detailed look at the city of San Francisco in 2259, and the Vengeance crash, from ILM. Nice shots of Starfleet headquarters and the automated waste processing facility.
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_36xOkTZb0[/YT]
Here's a much more detailed look at the city of San Francisco in 2259, and the Vengeance crash, from ILM. Nice shots of Starfleet headquarters and the automated waste processing facility.
