James Bond franchise--the return of SPECTRE and Blofeld?
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Really? It bores the hell outta me. Yet another stolen-weapons plot... as if all four of the Brosnan movies, plus the hacking angle of Skyfall, weren't enough? It sounds more like a decent Agents of Shield episode.
Except part of the appeal is how realistic something like this would be - a drone very much could get hacked. Agents of Shield wouldn't really work unless it's hacked by a guy with mind control or something.
The interest would be in the location and action, not the basic set up of the plot. I would really love it if they could film in Tehran, but that's not particularly likely. Still, the UAE would make a lot of sense from a logistical perspective.
Stewart played Scrooge. Don't know if that counts as a "villain."That would actually be awesome.. i don't believe i saw Stewart as a villain in anything before and he's an awesome actor so no doubt he could pull it off given a good script
You must not have seen last week's ep - the whole mission was to defuse/sabotage a long-range EMP-type device. There was nothing supernatural about it.
And Bolovia's water supply very much could get privatized, but people didn't seem too captivated by that.
All I'm saying is, no harm in thinking outside the box, and "hacked drones" is about as inside the box as "a stolen nuke".
CumberBlofeld?
I'm surprised by this as the whole Blofeld/SPECTRE thing was supposed to have been sorted out by a game of pass the parcel between Sony and MGM back before Die Another Day ("You give us your bits of Bond and we'll give you our bits of Spider-Man"), I didn't realise the McClory estate were clinging onto what they had still.
I'd be up for Blofeld, he's the Big Villain of the franchise, hasn't been done in a long time; hasn't ever been done especially faithfully (the film of OHMSS comes closest, catching him at that halfway point between the corporate head of Thunderball and the complete loon of You Only Live Twice); didn't get an especially good send off the last time he was in the films and deserves better.
Plus, the character in the books is actually quite interesting (and perhaps more importantly, not especially evocative of Doctor Evil, as long as they don't go Bald and Cat with the casting no one will make the connection, or at least not anymore than they do with any Bond villain) with a fairly well defined character arc.
He starts off as this almost anti-Bond- calm methodical and not interested at all in sex- and gradually degenerates mentally over the course of his three defeats. It still feels fairly fresh as lots of heroes have these big boo-hiss badies who crop up frequently but the SPECTRE trilogy is one of the few places to really think about the impact on the villain of constantly losing, by the end all those failures stacked up has sent Blofeld completely snooker loopey.
Plus, now we've had the burning down hotel bit of The Spy Who Loved Me turn up in Quantum of Solace the garden of death stuff from You Only Live Twice is about the only Big set piece from the books the films haven't used yet.
And EON obviously think there's still milage in the SPECTRE idea, despite the protestations of the producers QUANTUM operated exactly like SPECTRE did right at the start of Thunderball before their big play with the missiles, the difference is they have a slightly sillier name.
Silva made his money by working in the same apolitical in it just for the money way as well, of QoS not being hugely loved doesn't seem to have put them off the idea. Though them not making Silva the head of QUANTUM when it would have made no difference to the script suggests we won't be seeing them again any time soon.
I'd be up for Blofeld, he's the Big Villain of the franchise, hasn't been done in a long time; hasn't ever been done especially faithfully (the film of OHMSS comes closest, catching him at that halfway point between the corporate head of Thunderball and the complete loon of You Only Live Twice); didn't get an especially good send off the last time he was in the films and deserves better.
Plus, the character in the books is actually quite interesting (and perhaps more importantly, not especially evocative of Doctor Evil, as long as they don't go Bald and Cat with the casting no one will make the connection, or at least not anymore than they do with any Bond villain) with a fairly well defined character arc.
He starts off as this almost anti-Bond- calm methodical and not interested at all in sex- and gradually degenerates mentally over the course of his three defeats. It still feels fairly fresh as lots of heroes have these big boo-hiss badies who crop up frequently but the SPECTRE trilogy is one of the few places to really think about the impact on the villain of constantly losing, by the end all those failures stacked up has sent Blofeld completely snooker loopey.
Plus, now we've had the burning down hotel bit of The Spy Who Loved Me turn up in Quantum of Solace the garden of death stuff from You Only Live Twice is about the only Big set piece from the books the films haven't used yet.
And EON obviously think there's still milage in the SPECTRE idea, despite the protestations of the producers QUANTUM operated exactly like SPECTRE did right at the start of Thunderball before their big play with the missiles, the difference is they have a slightly sillier name.
Silva made his money by working in the same apolitical in it just for the money way as well, of QoS not being hugely loved doesn't seem to have put them off the idea. Though them not making Silva the head of QUANTUM when it would have made no difference to the script suggests we won't be seeing them again any time soon.
If they do re-introduce SPECTRE and Blofeld (and I kinda thought they were heading that way in the first two Craig Bonds) I do hope they do a post-modern re-take on a hugely overused trope:
Blofeld addresses his flunkies, singling out his master assassin who had just come back from failing to kill Bond:
"You know the penalty for failure."
Henchman winces, reaches into his pocket, and counts out a thousand dollars.
Blofeld snatches it out of his hand. "Next time, it's two thousand."
Now that's incentive.
Blofeld addresses his flunkies, singling out his master assassin who had just come back from failing to kill Bond:
"You know the penalty for failure."
Henchman winces, reaches into his pocket, and counts out a thousand dollars.
Blofeld snatches it out of his hand. "Next time, it's two thousand."
Now that's incentive.
First off, the device is sufficiently beyond our current capabilities in its use to qualify as science fiction. Second, it's taken straight from the comics, so I think it's a bit different.
And Bolovia's water supply very much could get privatized, but people didn't seem too captivated by that.
I thought it was very clever. One of the better things I liked from Quantum of Solace.
SPECTRE is likely to 'acquire' Quantum in a hostile takeover.
We need to know how the new Bondverse works - if Casino, Quantum and Skyfall are the first three Bond stories, by the end of which everything is in place (M, Moneypenny, Q, Tanner etc.) do the other films chronologically follow Skyfall or did they not happen at all, Casino being a full reboot ?
Essentially, do we get a new Blofeld starting from scratch, or would this be the same Blofeld from the earlier movies ?
That would actually be awesome.. i don't believe i saw Stewart as a villain in anything before and he's an awesome actor so no doubt he could pull it off given a good script
He played the villain against Mel Gibson & Julia Roberts in Conspiracy Theory and voiced the villain in TMNT's CGI feature film.
Of course there’s one clear way to ensure Dr Evil comparisons are minimised…make it Elena Blofeld…
And I’m actually being serious, and it isn’t something I’d usually suggest, but I think it could work. I wonder what Rachael Weisz would look like with a scar?
I also think Shatterhand would be a great title for a Bond film!
And I’m actually being serious, and it isn’t something I’d usually suggest, but I think it could work. I wonder what Rachael Weisz would look like with a scar?
I also think Shatterhand would be a great title for a Bond film!
Bloody amazing, obviously. And I'd love to see her play a full-on villainness outside of all that Oz reboot gunk!
There can be only one choice for Blofeld. Patrick Stewart.
Or Ving Rhames. Actually, Ving Rhames would be cool.
Either way, I'd like to see Christopher Judge as this badass henchman. Very physical, very imposing and intimidating, but also pretty smart, unlike Oddjob or Jaws, who were only violent, but dumb.
Or Ving Rhames. Actually, Ving Rhames would be cool.
Either way, I'd like to see Christopher Judge as this badass henchman. Very physical, very imposing and intimidating, but also pretty smart, unlike Oddjob or Jaws, who were only violent, but dumb.