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STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

From ERC on Twitter:

STAR TREK: ID went boldly beyond $200+M overseas this weekend w/ an add'l $17M. Top debuts - FRA $3.5M BRZ $3.1M ITA 1.5M

STID Brazil, $3.1m vs $0.7m ST09 (Opening weekend)
STID France, $3.5m vs $3.1m ST09
STID Italy, $1.5m vs $1.1m ST09

France and Italy disappointing (for me) but Brazil excellent because ST09 made $1.9m in total there.
 
And that's the thing really, I only need one Kirk.

I'll take as many Kirks as they throw at me.

There's been tons of reboots of all sorts throughout history. This one is no different to me. In fact, it may be better than most.
 
Weekend estimate: $5.66 million for $210.491 million so far.

Solid numbers for STID given the competition. I think a $230-235 finish is in the cards now... plus another $40 million plus or so overseas and SITD should finish in the neighborhood of $475-490 million worldwide.

I'm actually surprised with MOS' numbers... as they kept getting revised downward all weekend. Given the sheer volume of advertising Warners pumped into this thing I doubt they were expecting a $113 million 3-day weekend, probably more like the $132-135 million 3-day ($146 million including Sunday) they were originally estimating. Also given how Friday-Sunday tracked it looks a little frontloaded.

It will be interesting to see how WOM effects this film as it's doing poorly among the 30+ crowd and great among the 18-24 set. There will be some delicious irony if MOS barely manages to rake in more than Superman Returns adjusted for inflation. Overseas box office is really going to be the key for this movie.

Great article here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...fice-man-of-steel-soars-to-125-million-debut/

Yancy
 
I think Man of Steel will make $330-350 million domestic. Worldwide is more of a wildcard, but given the numbers so far I'd say it'll make $750-800 million worldwide.
 
I think Man of Steel will make $330-350 million domestic. Worldwide is more of a wildcard, but given the numbers so far I'd say it'll make $750-800 million worldwide.

I'm thinking more like $285-290 especially after this 3-day. $112 is okay, but given where other tentpole superhero franchises are it's nothing spectacular. You have two big films opening next week in Monsters University (which cuts into the younger demographic), and World War Z (which cuts into that 18-24 crowd). Next weekend will be pretty brutal.

Yancy
 
Given the sheer volume of advertising Warners pumped into this thing

Yeah, it sometimes seems like almost every commercial is one of those "can't decide whether it wants to be an ad for a car or a movie"-style MOS tie-ins...
 
I'm thinking more like $285-290 especially after this 3-day. $112 is okay, but given where other tentpole superhero franchises are it's nothing spectacular. You have two big films opening next week in Monsters University (which cuts into the younger demographic), and World War Z (which cuts into that 18-24 crowd). Next weekend will be pretty brutal.
Most of the huge openings are sequels. $113 million for the 3-day opening is excellent for a non-sequel/reboot. I think its legs will be fine.
 
I'm thinking more like $285-290 especially after this 3-day. $112 is okay, but given where other tentpole superhero franchises are it's nothing spectacular. You have two big films opening next week in Monsters University (which cuts into the younger demographic), and World War Z (which cuts into that 18-24 crowd). Next weekend will be pretty brutal.
Most of the huge openings are sequels. $113 million for the 3-day opening is excellent for a non-sequel/reboot. I think its legs will be fine.

But the reality is whether this is a reboot or not, it's another Superman movie, so it more or less is a sequel, and based on the 3-day and the appearance that it is frontloaded, that's not a terribly comforting sign.

Hell, there were box office experts who "predicted" early that MOS might have the biggest opening of all time, and there were other "experts" who predicted MOS would easily be the biggest movie of the summer... that's clearly not the case.

Yancy
 
But the reality is whether this is a reboot or not, it's another Superman movie, so it more or less is a sequel, and based on the 3-day and the appearance that it is frontloaded, that's not a terribly comforting sign.
Reboots swim against stronger currents, even when it's a very well known character. And the opening weekend isn't particularly frontloaded by the standards of the superhero genre.

Hell, there were box office experts who "predicted" early that MOS might have the biggest opening of all time, and there were other "experts" who predicted MOS would easily be the biggest movie of the summer... that's clearly not the case.
Which experts are you referring to? Most of the big prediction sites had predictions ranging from $84 million on the low side to $139 million on the high side. BoxOffice.com predicted $115 million and were pretty much on the money, excluding the Thursday night 7.00pm numbers.
 
From last week's reported total of roughly 375 million. China has pushed it to 387. US showing through Friday have pushed it to 392, France has given it by Friday enough to hit 395. And its still doing solid in Korea. Its should get another million or so from GB, its playing new in two other countries were I have yet to hear an attendance or dollar amount. And of course still showing in over 20 countries. Trust me by the end of business Friday the film should have crossed 400 million.

With an increase of 40 million (depending on what budget source you read) from 2009, and with film financing based on double what a film generates. STID needs to generate 80 million to cover the increase of Production costs.

It probably won't due that. It's looking more and more likely for a 460 million final gross. Which is roughly a 75 million increase from 2009. Almost enough to cover that increase when you consider the money studios actual earn from release.

Well if you are going by the double production figure STID is said to have cost US$190m so double would be US$380m.

ST(2009) was reported to cost approx US$150m so that would be US$300m. Final return for ST (2009) was US$385m. So around an US$85m profit. So STID it might return a smaller profit, but it should still return a profit from box office alone.
 
From The Hollywood Reporter:

Paramount and Skydance Productions' Star Trek Into Darkness continued to enjoy strong legs, jumping the $200 million mark at the international box office to put its worldwide at $412.2 million. The pic earned $17 million over the weekend at the foreign box office from 57 markets for a total $201.7 million -- 60 percent ahead of the 2009 Star Trek and a result of Paramount's massive international marketing campaign.
 
Are there any other big foreign markets that Star Trek has not opened in yet?

I think the box office should end up between $450 and $500 million. Having seen Man of Steel the other night, I'm so glad that JJ Abrams is in charge of Star Trek.

I thought that man of steel was really badly directed and written - the shaky cam was jarring and the musical score was terrible. I think that the box office that MOS is getting is purely down to an expensive advertising campaign and the fact that it's Superman.

I've written a review here:
http://ryesofthegeek.wordpress.com/

Trek looks to be a solid and reliable performer for Paramount. I am pleased that ST:ID will be the most successful Trek film of all time. Does anyone know how many movies the cast are locked in for?
 
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