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Sex and Gender

scotpens

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Okay, so I'm watching a TV documentary on chicken ranching, and the voice-over narrator says, "The newly hatched chicks are separated by gender."

I'm like, "WTF? Gender??" We're talking about chickens, for Christ's sake.

Sex is biological -- the characteristic of being biologically male or female. Gender is psychological, cultural or grammatical.

Chickens have neither psychology, nor culture, nor language. So how can they have "gender"?

Why this recent fashion of using the word "gender" -- incorrectly -- when what we mean is "sex"? And am I the only person who finds it annoying?
 
I have mentioned to people that the Bugis culture of Sulawesi recognise three sexes and five genders. People often seem to be surprised and say that there are only two genders (male and female). Some of them still stick to this notion even after I have explained the difference between the meaning of gender and sex, as well as explaining the Bugis point of view which is quite logical as far as I can see it.
 
Gender is commonly used to refer to the physiology of non-human animals without any implication of social gender roles. Only a true pedant wouldn't know exactly what they meant in referring to chickens.
 
Why this recent fashion of using the word "gender" -- incorrectly -- when what we mean is "sex"? And am I the only person who finds it annoying?

Gender sounds scientific and sex sounds like it might upset some viewer. Kind of like the trend to call the vulva the vagina.
 
Can I just say that considering the recent huge discussions on this site I sort of... expected a different content when I clicked on this thread?
 
Gender is commonly used to refer to the physiology of non-human animals without any implication of social gender roles. Only a true pedant wouldn't know exactly what they meant in referring to chickens.
I know what they meant. It's just the wrong word. Guess that makes me a pedant, then.

Oh, well -- better a pedant than a pederast! Or something like that.

Did the chickens put up a squawk about this?
Yes, and they cried fowl as well.

Gender sounds scientific and sex sounds like it might upset some viewer. Kind of like the trend to call the vulva the vagina.
Well, I can sort of understand that. "Vulva" sounds like a Swedish car, or a river in Eastern Europe.
 
Okay, so I'm watching a TV documentary on chicken ranching, and the voice-over narrator says, "The newly hatched chicks are separated by gender."

I'm like, "WTF? Gender??" We're talking about chickens, for Christ's sake.

Sex is biological -- the characteristic of being biologically male or female. Gender is psychological, cultural or grammatical.

Chickens have neither psychology, nor culture, nor language. So how can they have "gender"?

Why this recent fashion of using the word "gender" -- incorrectly -- when what we mean is "sex"? And am I the only person who finds it annoying?
I fear the consequences if we continue to underestimate chickens in this manner.
 
I fear the consequences if we continue to underestimate chickens in this manner.

Once more, we'll consult the encyclopedia.

Chicken (n):

Comical yet tasty bird native to KFC. Unprocessed form resembles miniature baseball mascot. May lay eggs, unless actually a cock - if so, cook the bastard. Known associates include Goosely Loosey and chips. May be eaten both before and after it lives; consumption during life not recommended.

Unusually invested in reaching the other side, yet remains less committed than the pig, being merely "involved". Long-running dispute with egg over precedence. Beware: what first appears a chicken may in fact be evil manifest. Known relatives include the turkey, the partridge (but not Alan Partridge), yellowbellies and other cowards, and The Transhuman Condition. Known subspecies include the Nugget and the Kiev. Distant relative of Tyrannosaurus, though marginally less impressive. Established psychological disorder concerning collapse of sky. Hypnotized by straight lines.

May be farmed or played; the latter more controversial. Beware oversized version - may wear disguise to look like human guys, but is not a man, is a ChickenBoo.

See also:

Chicken, Bucket of
Chicken, Giant Space
Chicken, Mike the Headless
Chicken, Rubber

Gender sounds scientific and sex sounds like it might upset some viewer.

I imagine that's probably it.
 
Ya know, I know this is from the evil Wikipedia and all. But it does seem to be fairly well cited.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender:
Gender is a range of characteristics of femininity, masculinity[1] and others described as third gender. Depending on the context, the describing characteristics vary from sex to social roles (gender roles) to gender identity. The academic interdisciplinary field gender studies focuses on gender. Sexologist John Money introduced the terminological distinction between biological sex and gender as a role in 1955. Before his work, it was uncommon to use the word "gender" to refer to anything but grammatical categories.[2][3] However, Money's meaning of the word did not become widespread until the 1970s, when feminist theory embraced the distinction between biological sex and the social construct of gender. Today, the distinction is strictly followed in some contexts, like medicine,[4][1] social sciences,[5][6] feminist literature,[7] documents written by organizations such as the World Health Organization (WHO),[8] and in some dictionaries,[9] but in many contexts, even in some areas of social sciences, the meaning of gender has expanded to include "sex" or even to replace the latter word.[2][3] Although this gradual change in the meaning of gender can be traced to the 1980s, a small acceleration of the process in the scientific literature was observed when the Food and Drug Administration started to use "gender" instead of "sex" in 1993.[10] "Gender" is now commonly used even to refer to the physiology of non-human animals, without any implication of social gender roles.[3]

[...]

1. ^ a b Ann-Maree Nobelius (23 June 2004). "What is the difference between sex and gender?". Monash University. Retrieved May 10, 2012.
2. ^ a b Udry, J. Richard (November 1994). "The Nature of Gender". Demography 31 (4): 561–573. doi:10.2307/2061790. JSTOR 2061790. PMID 7890091.
3. ^ a b c d e f Haig, David (April 2004). "The Inexorable Rise of Gender and the Decline of Sex: Social Change in Academic Titles, 1945–2001". Archives of Sexual Behavior 33 (2): 87–96. doi:10.1023/B:ASEB.0000014323.56281.0d. PMID 15146141.
4. ^ "What Is The Difference Between Sex And Gender?". Medical News Today. 05 Aug 2011. Retrieved 10 May 2012.
5. ^ "GENDER". Social Science Dictionary. Retrieved May 10, 2012.
6. ^ THE SOCIOLOGY OF GENDER.
7. ^ For example, the definition and use of the term in G. Argyrous and Frank Stilwell, Economics as a Social Science: Readings in Political Economy, 2nd ed., (Pluto Press, 2003), in the feminist economics section, pages 238–243, especially pages 233 and 234.
8. ^ a b c "What do we mean by "sex" and "gender"?". World Health Organization. Retrieved 2009-09-29.
9. ^ "Definition of Gender". Oxford Dictionary. Retrieved 01 May 2012.
10. ^ Guideline for the Study and Evaluation of Gender Differences in the Clinical Evaluation of Drugs
So, ya know, there.

It pretty much encompasses the whole discussion so far. Except the point that chickens should not be underestimated.
 
It pretty much encompasses the whole discussion so far. Except the point that chickens should not be underestimated.
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