Chick-fil-A digging themselves a hole

[cooleddie74]

Then you guys need to stop whining about the 10 Commandments being taken down in government buildings.

Word.

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And is it just me, or did/do a lot of us never even notice an artistic rendering of the Ten Commandments hanging in public buildings to begin with? If they're there, I sure as heck have never seen them and I've been inside a lot of public buildings during the course of my life.

If most folks don't notice them to begin with...how can they be making a positive difference and be "necessary?"

 

[Amaris]

Then you guys need to stop whining about the 10 Commandments being taken down in government buildings.

Word.

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And is it just me, or did/do a lot of us never even notice an artistic rendering of the Ten Commandments hanging in public buildings to begin with? If they're there, I sure as heck have never seen them and I've been inside a lot of public buildings during the course of my life.

If most folks don't notice them to begin with...how can they be making a positive difference and be "necessary?"

Yep. The idea that Christianity is the foundation of the United States is ignorant of history. I do find it fascinating that Jesus said the meek would inherit the earth, while there are large factions of Christianity that have chosen to wrest it from them by force.

 

[gturner]

Boy, the thread got awfully quiet all of the sudden.

I know, you'd think there was a major world event going on tonight or that it was late evening in parts of the country where people are preparing for bed either with their children or themselves.

I'm still here! It's about 7:30 on a Friday evening and I have no plans.

But at least you have an alibi!

I'm guessing the VP was a walking heart attack waiting to happen, and the added stress and frantic workload of crisis management was a bit too much.

Or it was something completely unrelated.

Or gay ninja assassins.

 

[Gaseous Anomaly]

I know, you'd think there was a major world event going on tonight or that it was late evening in parts of the country where people are preparing for bed either with their children or themselves.

I'm still here! It's about 7:30 on a Friday evening and I have no plans.

But at least you have an alibi!

I'm guessing the VP was a walking heart attack waiting to happen, and the added stress and frantic workload of crisis management was a bit too much.

Or it was something completely unrelated.

Or gay ninja assassins.

Or maybe it was just too much fried foods.

 

[RandyS]

I've never eaten at a Chick-fil-A before. I don't even know if they're around here.

Now, I most certainly won't.

It's amazing to me that people can get so worked up over something that has no impact on them whatsoever. Who cares what two consenting adults do? It makes no difference to me.

There are two that I know of in our area.

And I agree with you. I don't share this man's anti-gay opinion, since that's all it is.But I'm not going to let a difference of opinion control what I do. I love Chick-a-fill and will continue to eat there no matter what he thinks.

I think you misunderstood me?

I said I would not eat there, and that people who get all worked up about gay marriage (who cares?) puzzle me.

No I didn't. People who get all worked up over it puzzle me too.

 

[shivkala]

I shudder to go here, as it is quickly becoming a cliche, however, I still think it's a valid question:

For all those who say they support Mr. Cathy's statements and how Chick-Fil-A donates their money, based on their faith, how would you react to finding out a company was owned by a Muslim and that the company donated it's money to charities that supported Muslim beliefs (let's, for argument's sake, say that none of these charities are linked, in anyway to terrorism, terrorist groups, or terrorist actions)? Would you support them? Would you still spend your money at their store/restaurant/business? Would you give them your kudos for standing up for their beliefs?

If the answer to any of those questions is, "No," please explain how Dan Cathy and Chick-Fil-A is any different than the Muslim and their business in my example? Bonus points if you can explain it without claiming your religion is correct and theirs is not. Extra bonus points if you can explain why without stooping to the "all Muslims are terrorists" cliche.

As for me, I'm celebrating that fact that two of my friends, who happen to be good, decent, Church going people just got approved to be pre-adoptive parents through DCF. Oh, yeah, perhaps I should add that they are a Lesbian couple. And again, two of the kindest, best people I know.

 

[Kestra]

You're awesome.

Thanks!

But at least you have an alibi!

I'm guessing the VP was a walking heart attack waiting to happen, and the added stress and frantic workload of crisis management was a bit too much.

Or it was something completely unrelated.

Or gay ninja assassins.

I'm having a fun cooking night by myself. But yeah, that's rather sad and untimely. I feel really bad for his family. It's hard enough to deal with death but then when there's publicity and all going on, that's got to be rough.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

There are two that I know of in our area.

And I agree with you. I don't share this man's anti-gay opinion, since that's all it is.But I'm not going to let a difference of opinion control what I do. I love Chick-a-fill and will continue to eat there no matter what he thinks.

I think you misunderstood me?

I said I would not eat there, and that people who get all worked up about gay marriage (who cares?) puzzle me.

No I didn't. People who get all worked up over it puzzle me too.

Well we all can't be as apathetic and incapable of empathy as you, Randy.

 

[cooleddie74]

For all those who say they support Mr. Cathy's statements and how Chick-Fil-A donates their money, based on their faith, how would you react to finding out a company was owned by a Muslim and that the company donated it's money to charities that supported Muslim beliefs (let's, for argument's sake, say that none of these charities are linked, in anyway to terrorism, terrorist groups, or terrorist actions)? Would you support them? Would you still spend your money at their store/restaurant/business? Would you give them your kudos for standing up for their beliefs?

Bullseye.

I'm surprised nobody else has raised this analogy yet, but the thought did pass through my mind a few hours ago. These are some of the best points I've seen made anywhere in this entire thread. I'm very curious to hear any responses.

 

[Kestra]

I think you misunderstood me?

I said I would not eat there, and that people who get all worked up about gay marriage (who cares?) puzzle me.

No I didn't. People who get all worked up over it puzzle me too.

Well we all can't be as apathetic and incapable of empathy as you, Randy.

Incapable of empathy? We must be talking about me again.

 

[gturner]

^Shivkala

I regularly eat at an Egyptian restaurant whose owners may well donate to the Muslim Brotherhood, which certainly persecutes the heck out of Egyptian gays, Egyptian Christians, women, and Jews. But their food is very tasty. Even Moses would eat there after 40 years in the wilderness.

 

[cooleddie74]

I'm having a fun cooking night by myself.

Hope I'm not out of line asking, but what are you cooking? I'm up for more food talk, especially if it's great food.

 

[Kestra]

I'm having a fun cooking night by myself.

Hope I'm not out of line asking, but what are you cooking? I'm up for more food talk, especially if it's great food.

Keema (I'm using ground beef though I often use ground turkey) and daal. I'm also going to heat up some rooti which I don't bother making myself since I can just buy them and keep them in the freezer.

 

[gturner]

Keema (I'm using ground beef though I often use ground turkey) and daal. I'm also going to heat up some rooti which I don't bother making myself since I can just buy them and keep them in the freezer.

Nothing like some good Hindu beef to make a body happy.

 

[shivkala]

^Shivkala

I regularly eat at an Egyptian restaurant whose owners may well donate to the Muslim Brotherhood, which certainly persecutes the heck out of Egyptian gays, Egyptian Christians, women, and Jews. But their food is very tasty. Even Moses would eat there after 40 years in the wilderness.

I remember you stating that earlier in the thread. I do appreciate you answering the question, though, and for your honesty. I've never had Egyptian food, though, to be honest, I'm sure I'm not the only one who left The Avengers wondering what Shawarama was or if it's any good. Not sure where I'd get it around me, though, seeing as how putting "Egyptian Food" and my town into Google pulls up Chinese restaurants as the first 3 results!

Honestly, being raised Jewish, I've heard all my life about how horrible the Muslims are, especially because of the situation in Israel, but I've also tried to put that aside and judge people on their actions, not the actions of others of their race, religion, etc. Though, to be fully honest, if I found out they supported Palestinian causes, I might think twice about supporting them.

 

[cooleddie74]

Those look really good based on the photos and the brief descriptions. Keema looks especially enticing.

Is rooti bread anything like pita in flavor and texture?

 

[RandyS]

Nice to see a business stand up for traditional values and not bow to political correctness.

Opposing discrimination in hiring practices and the denial of basic civil rights and benefits to a group of people is not political correctness, so you can drop the silly buzzwords designed to get people who don't put more than two seconds of thought into their response on your side. You've already got Randy, the King of Apathy on your side.

I have to take exception here. Knight does NOT have me on his side. All I said was that Chick-a-Fill's owner has a right to his opinions the same as anybody else. I also said that I DO NOT SHARE THAT OPINION.

Go back and reread my post.

 

[Amaris]

I'm having a fun cooking night by myself.

Hope I'm not out of line asking, but what are you cooking? I'm up for more food talk, especially if it's great food.

Keema (I'm using ground beef though I often use ground turkey) and daal. I'm also going to heat up some rooti which I don't bother making myself since I can just buy them and keep them in the freezer.

Well, that sounds delicious! I rarely get to have Indian food, and usually have to make do with the freezer dinners. Home cooked Indian food would be a godsend!

 

[gturner]

^Shivkala

I regularly eat at an Egyptian restaurant whose owners may well donate to the Muslim Brotherhood, which certainly persecutes the heck out of Egyptian gays, Egyptian Christians, women, and Jews. But their food is very tasty. Even Moses would eat there after 40 years in the wilderness.

I remember you stating that earlier in the thread. I do appreciate you answering the question, though, and for your honesty. I've never had Egyptian food, though, to be honest, I'm sure I'm not the only one who left The Avengers wondering what Shawarama was or if it's any good. Not sure where I'd get it around me, though, seeing as how putting "Egyptian Food" and my town into Google pulls up Chinese restaurants as the first 3 results!

Try "Mediterranean" or "Arab" food. From what I've had there, it's no different than Jordanian food, and not all that different from Turkey. Shawarma is extremely tasty, and I think it was invented in Turkey shortly after electric motors and gas heat came out. They just stack meat on a rotating upright spit in front of radiant gas burners and let it slowly spin all day. It's now the most popular meat in Germany, and very popular in Canada and Israel. They add vegetables and a yogurt sauce and wrap it in a pita, so it's eaten like a taco or wrap.

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Honestly, being raised Jewish, I've heard all my life about how horrible the Muslims are, especially because of the situation in Israel, but I've also tried to put that aside and judge people on their actions, not the actions of others of their race, religion, etc. Though, to be fully honest, if I found out they supported Palestinian causes, I might think twice about supporting them.

I used to send pizza to the IDF. One of the websites that I used to frequent had a cute little link for that, and you get to send a note along with it.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Nice to see a business stand up for traditional values and not bow to political correctness.

Opposing discrimination in hiring practices and the denial of basic civil rights and benefits to a group of people is not political correctness, so you can drop the silly buzzwords designed to get people who don't put more than two seconds of thought into their response on your side. You've already got Randy, the King of Apathy on your side.

I have to take exception here. Knight does NOT have me on his side. All I said was that Chick-a-Fill's owner has a right to his opinions the same as anybody else. I also said that I DO NOT SHARE THAT OPINION.

Go back and reread my post.

No, you go back and read every other post in the thread where they make it clear that the problem is not the owner's personal beliefs, but the corporate culture he encourages at Chick-Fil-A which uses discriminatory hiring practices, directly bans gays at their corporate retreats, finances legal campaigns to prevent gay marriage and stop legislation against discrimination of LGBT people, and supports organizations which promote a host of bigoted beliefs. You've profoundly missed the point in your usual crusade to not give a shit about anything except false accusations of political correctness, which was the thing I was taking issue with you about.