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Glee Season Finale

Vanyel

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Did Glee just do a Gilligan's Island?

Ginger isn't Ginger anymore, she's Marry Anne; and Marry Anne is Marry Anne anymore because she's Ginger.
 
99 percent of the time I'm glad that I only understand Gilligans Island in principle.

I don't understand how puck lost that fight?
 
99 percent of the time I'm glad that I only understand Gilligans Island in principle.

I don't understand how puck lost that fight?

Is this one of the 1% of the time?

I don't think Puck's mind was really on the fight, he is failing, he gave his scumbag of a dad most the money he needed to go to California. Just like coach Bieste, the tough guy facade was broken down. He was no longer the Puck from season 1 or 2, he had grown. Why he'd want to go to California where hunky pool boys are a dime a dozen is what escapes me. Working things right, he could become a successful pool cleaner in Lima and the whole state.
 
I saw Eureka yesterday.

Same trope, new bucket.

I'm watching Dead Zone.

Sandy the old Glee teacher is in this one, and Jane Lynch was in the episode before that.

I wonder if t here will be a glee hattrick with the next episode?
 
Oh, Glee, why do you have to have a bad season only to come back with two very good episodes? This is such a polorizing show in that way, even though the more I think about it, the more I wonder why I liked those two hours last night. Tina got lines, but had to be Rachael to do it, Quinn can walk and dance as if she WASN'T blindsided by a huge truck which is still preposterious to me, and Mr. Schue, who had no passion for spanish and actually switched teaching to history, wins teacher of the year. For all that being said, I still enjoyed the emotional ride, the music, and the Puck/Bieste scenes were some of the best conclusions to stories they've had all season.

So I don't know how I feel about this show. The writing is still all over the place, but maybe to the Core the show is about the music and having characters who just go where the Writers need them to go. I'm actually thinking maybe Next year will be the season of Tina and that's a good thing, but I just don't understand why one week this show can be god awful and make me not watch the next season, and then the next they have two solid hours reminding me of the good times I've had watching Glee in Season 1.
 
Producers plot. Hire writers to stuff the plot, and then polish the stuffing.

It's how TV works.

There have been 9 writers this season as of episode 21 writing between 1 and 3 episodes each.

Ali Adler
Brad Falchuk
Ian Brennan
Marti Noxon
Matthew Hodgson
Michael Hitchcock
Ross Maxwell
Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa
Ryan Murphy
 
Oh, Glee, why do you have to have a bad season only to come back with two very good episodes? This is such a polorizing show in that way, even though the more I think about it, the more I wonder why I liked those two hours last night. Tina got lines, but had to be Rachael to do it, Quinn can walk and dance as if she WASN'T blindsided by a huge truck which is still preposterious to me, and Mr. Schue, who had no passion for spanish and actually switched teaching to history, wins teacher of the year. For all that being said, I still enjoyed the emotional ride, the music, and the Puck/Bieste scenes were some of the best conclusions to stories they've had all season.

So I don't know how I feel about this show. The writing is still all over the place, but maybe to the Core the show is about the music and having characters who just go where the Writers need them to go. I'm actually thinking maybe Next year will be the season of Tina and that's a good thing, but I just don't understand why one week this show can be god awful and make me not watch the next season, and then the next they have two solid hours reminding me of the good times I've had watching Glee in Season 1.

:lol: I know right! Sometimes I watch an episode and I think "wtf that was awful" and then they do something like this.

I'm glad they won Nationals, and the fight scene was brutal. I loved the scene with Bieste and Puck in the locker room. I think Glee just needs to chill out a bit and not try to be 'the cool show that everyone loves'. Forget about all the celebrity cameos*, stick to the characters they have.

The body swap dream was pretty funny, although it does annoy me how they know they've done something wrong and make a joke out of it but don't actually deal with it.

The song choices were excellent and It's All Coming Back to me Now/Paradise by the Dashboard Light gave me goosebumps.

*The cameos like Ricky Martin, where they pretty much devote (waste) a whole episode on the guest star.
 
Tina gets a solo in a dream sequence where she thinks she's Rachel. She didn't earn or deserve it, despite her earlier tirade. I dunno if I'll be around to see it, but I do hope they will follow through and actually give her something to do next year. Certainly sounds like she'll be the strongest singer in New Directions now (the actress certainly will be), but that's by default - she's the best lead singer by attrition, she didn't fight to get it. There's no character arc to follow. That guts it for me.

I think one of the worst things about the writing on this show is that they do actually acknowledge their failings, but don't do anything about it. They spend a good chunk of the opening recap showing just how much of Tina we HAVEN'T seen in three years depsite her rank and skill, which is obstensibly because the writers couldn't come up with anything for her to do after the first season. Then they do this, and next episode it's like it didn't happen. It's another symptom of having such a large cast to write for, and it's been very frustrating that they routinely mention the stupid plotting or characterization that has happened (Sue acknowledging by denying said events is another example) and do nothing about it.

On the positive side, the musical numbers were great yesterday. Look at the size and scope of their performance this time versus the first season's Regionals. They LOOK more like Vocal Adrenaline, and it looks like they evolved that far.

Mark

PS - there were a lot of ND dancers in the background. What, did they take a separate bus? With the band? The band are the coolest, after all. Every week they spontaneously crank out polished renditions of songs seemingly without actual practice, AND their psychic ability to be around when the Glee kids need 'em. THAT is the spinoff Fox needs, people. I'm sure they can solve crimes too.

Mark
 
I think about these two episodes some more, and mainly the faults of these episodes are really more faults of the overall season, which can be summed up as basically there is no follow through. These could have been interesting storylines, but instead of going from A to B to C, they went from A to C basically. I like the fact that they are self aware (And it could make for some interesting comedy) but then they don't do anything about it and it's almost like a false hope.

Still, the music was good, the Puck/Bieste stuff was excellent, and I still love that Jenna, despite playing Rachael, got lines and a solo. She has a beautiful voice.
 
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Tina gets a solo in a dream sequence where she thinks she's Rachel. She didn't earn or deserve it, despite her earlier tirade. I dunno if I'll be around to see it, but I do hope they will follow through and actually give her something to do next year. Certainly sounds like she'll be the strongest singer in New Directions now (the actress certainly will be), but that's by default - she's the best lead singer by attrition, she didn't fight to get it. There's no character arc to follow. That guts it for me.

I think one of the worst things about the writing on this show is that they do actually acknowledge their failings, but don't do anything about it. They spend a good chunk of the opening recap showing just how much of Tina we HAVEN'T seen in three years depsite her rank and skill, which is obstensibly because the writers couldn't come up with anything for her to do after the first season. Then they do this, and next episode it's like it didn't happen. It's another symptom of having such a large cast to write for, and it's been very frustrating that they routinely mention the stupid plotting or characterization that has happened (Sue acknowledging by denying said events is another example) and do nothing about it.

On the positive side, the musical numbers were great yesterday. Look at the size and scope of their performance this time versus the first season's Regionals. They LOOK more like Vocal Adrenaline, and it looks like they evolved that far.

Mark

PS - there were a lot of ND dancers in the background. What, did they take a separate bus? With the band? The band are the coolest, after all. Every week they spontaneously crank out polished renditions of songs seemingly without actual practice, AND their psychic ability to be around when the Glee kids need 'em. THAT is the spinoff Fox needs, people. I'm sure they can solve crimes too.

Mark

New Directions gains dancers at every competition. Maybe the piano player has some dancers stuffed in his piano too?
 
Just letting everyone know that tonight really is Glee's Season Finale. I have a feeling it's going to be sappy as hell (And if they do have a cliffhanger I might just laugh knowing that it will never get resolved appropriately) but it will be an interesting Graduation.
 
I liked it a lot.

Seriously these last three episodes are why I fell in love with the show, and why I keep with it during episodes that are absolutely awful.
 
Well, it wasn't horrible, but it wasn't good either. I enjoyed the first half hour, but then it almost seemed like the episode was getting tired, and I was getting tired counting down to the end of the season, and possibly the end of me watching this show. I'm still not so sure if I will be back next year, but this episode doesn't really give me much motivation.

I guess to say something about the end, I honestly don't get it. Not the whole Rachael going to New York thing, but how Kurt, who had a kick ass audition, didn't get in. Rachael choked, Kurt had a great audition (And was great at Nationals). How does that make Rachael getting in again and what was the point of the auditions anyway?

I could also talk about the other characters, but I kind of felt the writers screwed them over. How was no one concerned with Brittney, and what will happen with Santana. They only gave minimal lines to the rest of the characters and the final half hour was the Rachael/Finn show, so forgive me for not having much to say about the rest of the episode. I'm glad this season is over though. Time for a much needed Glee Break.

When does Doctor Who premiere again? I miss that show.
 
As a finale for glee as we've known it, I thought it was pretty good. I enjoyed every minute until the cliffhanger, which I thought came out of left field and made no sense given the news I've read about season 4.

Speaking of which, I have a feeling next year is going to be a disaster. Apparently the producers want to have their spin-off cake and eat it too, and I have serious doubts that they will be able to pull it off.
 
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