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Will 2012 be an incredibly cynical election?

Nerys posted:
You're almost as obsessed with Bzerzinski as you are with Ron Paul.

Is there something you can point to that identifies Bzerzinski as the mastermind behind Obama's foreign policy?
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He was his campaing advisor.
So, do you have anything more recent and involved with the administration rather than the 2008 campaign?

He is one of the key architects of post-Clod War US for foreign policy. Probably not in the administration because of the fact that he is controversial. His strategy was used and continued regardless.
 
Here's a LLOOONNGG list that you DON'T have to click. It's all right there on just ONE page. No muss, no fuss. Just read the list.

Then get back to us and apologize.

http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/what-has-obama-done-since-january-20-2009.html
I am a progressive and disguested that whoever wrote this list tries to pretend that Obama has done enough deficit spending or prevented that another financial meltdown could happen. It is simply wrong.
Anybody who is not aware of the influence of G&S upon both major parties and anybody who does not care about fixing the structural problems of corporate influence upon government is not a progressive, hell, he isn't even a democrat. He is just a dumb party soldier.
So getting hundreds of things accomplished don't count for anything? He ONLY should have focused on the deficit and NOTHING ELSE?

By the way, I am a Democrat, but NOT a "dumb party soldier". But thanks for calling me one. Kind of shows what kind of person YOU are.
Like i asaid passing legislation does not equal accomplishing something.

Edie posted;
Wait...loving to see Paul debate Obama is one thing. I'd like to see it too, and not for the reasons you probably have. But saying "he has the best chance of beating him"? What parallel, Bizzaro universe planet do you live on? Newt Gingrich would have a better chance in the electoral college than Ron Paul. Heck, a trained circus seal would probably do better. God bless you, but you have little or no grasp of American politics if yBut saying "he has the best chance of beating him"? What parallel, Bizzaro universe planet do you live on? Newt Gingrich would have a better chance in the electoral college than Ron Paul. Read up more on what he really stands for and his connections to racist groups and I doubt you'd be so gung-ho about him.
But saying "he has the best chance of beating him"? What parallel, Bizzaro universe planet do you live on? Newt Gingrich would have a better chance in the electoral college than Ron Paul.

Newt would explode because of his cozy relationships with lobbysts.
God bless you, but you have little or no grasp of American politics if you seriously think that clown Paul has any realistic shot at the White House given his gut-everything, blame-America-first and let-the-mullahs-get-the-bomb platform that appeals only to the naive, uninformed and congenital morons


This ain't the TNZso tone it down.

Cutting the military budget in half does not equal gutting.

Iran would be a rational actor with the bomb just like Russia or India.
 
We're never going to use the bomb.

If the Iranians ever nuke Romania, then he'd be crying about us not stopping them from getting it.

It's easy to defend someone's right to have WMD's when your not the obvious target.
 
I think Syfy films their movies there. They'd be sad. But I'm sure they could find some other country where the dollar is still strong. They'll probably pick that country from Hostel.
 
We're never going to use the bomb.

If the Iranians ever nuke Romania, then he'd be crying about us not stopping them from getting it.

It's easy to defend someone's right to have WMD's when your not the obvious target.

We are not the obvious target, Israel is and I doubt they will nuke Israel either, there are Palestinians living there too. Also, Israel has nukes too, so they could easily retaliate.
 
IF Iran did nuke Romania, would anyone notice?

Debatable...but it would create radioactive vampires capable of growing to immense size and glowing in the dark. If nothing else it would provide the basis for the next bestselling horror novel.
 
Nerys posted:

He was his campaing advisor.
So, do you have anything more recent and involved with the administration rather than the 2008 campaign?

He is one of the key architects of post-Clod War US for foreign policy. Probably not in the administration because of the fact that he is controversial. His strategy was used and continued regardless.
So that's all you got?

He didn't seem to agree with Obama's Asia strategy last month.
 
It's easy to defend someone's right to have WMD's when your not the obvious target.

There are days I don't know which set of Ron Paul's beliefs are more naive and brainless. The ones about gutting the social safety net and federal government to the bone and trusting the states to take up all the slack...or the ones about it being fine and dandy for rogue regimes like the misogynist and homophobic mullahs in Iran to get a nuclear weapon because "they have the right to defend themselves from American and Israeli aggression and imperialism" and "it'd be our fault anyways."

I'd like to see Paul be so willing to shrug his frumpy, ignorant shoulders and just accept a nuclear-armed Iran if he lived in Israel or on an American military installation located in the Middle East. It's easy to live in a gullible, simplistic libertarian and isolationist dream world when you're an American Congressman who can both literally and figuratively afford to be a self-righteous old fart who doesn't seem to grasp how the modern world works. But on the plus side, he has all that money from racist groups to fall back on...so perhaps he doesn't really care either way. It's all about self-promotion and his cult following.
 
if he lived in Israel or on an American military installation located in the Middle East

He would know that israeli nukes protect him.

But on the plus side, he has all that money from racist groups to fall back on...so perhaps he doesn't really care either way.
What percentage of his supporters are racist?
 
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