Supernatural Season 8 news!

[Snick27]

http://tv.ign.com/articles/122/1222349p1.html


Things are changing behind the scenes of Supernatural once again. Deadline reports that Sera Gamble, who'd been serving as co-showrunner on the series for the past two years, is stepping down and will be replaced by Jeremy Carver.

Carver will run the series with Gamble's current co-showrunner, Robert Singer (yes, the inspiration for Supernatural character Bobby Singer's name) beginning next season. Carver had been co-showrunning the Syfy version of Being Human with his wife, Anna Fricke, but will depart that series for Supernatural – though he'll retain an executive producer credit on Being Human. This will mark Carver's return to Supernatural - he wrote for the series for several years before leaving for Being Human.





I kind of thought they would end the series this season. I mean how storys been told, what more is there to do with Sam and Dean?

 

[startrekwatcher]

I kind of thought they would end the series this season. I mean how storys been told, what more is there to do with Sam and Dean?

CW has very little to prop it up so much like 7th Heaven and Smallville or One Tree Hill they'll keep resurrecting a corpse.

S5 was uneven but felt it was mostly worthwhile but for the last two seasons the show has been running on creative fumes. The big bads have been lame, the brotherly angst is tired, the one-offs are stale and predictable, camp has crept into the show ruining it for me and from the ep descriptions I've read this season sounds like they've been recycling much better stories from earlier seasons.

I haven't thought much of Sera as showrunner and I have even less faith in Carver. The show should have ended when Kripke intended with Swan Song.

 

[pork3]

Carver will run the series with Gamble's current co-showrunner, Robert Singer (yes, the inspiration for Supernatural character Bobby Singer's name) beginning next season. Carver had been co-showrunning the Syfy version of Being Human with his wife, Anna Fricke, but will depart that series for Supernatural – though he'll retain an executive producer credit on Being Human. This will mark Carver's return to Supernatural - he wrote for the series for several years before leaving for Being Human.

I wonder how this'll affect Being Human, and if there's some behind the scenes issues with TPTB that's leading to his departure. The show has had some mediocre episodes this season.

In any event, I honestly think Supernatural should call it a wrap as it's run its course.

-Jamman

 

[mswood]

I am personally going to miss Sera the writer, she's been my favorite primary character writer on the show since its first season. And while I do have some issues with the overall arcs the last two years shes actually taken more risks then the five years before.

And while SPN isn't as good as it best, seasons two and four, and it tends not to have as episodes take it out of the park, I still find it to be significantly above average for tv. Hell I think it's worst season (one) is still better then any season of say Smallville, I can't judge One Tree Hill as I only watched one episode, it's not my type of show, I hated that one episode.

But as this how continues to drop year to year at a slower rate then any show that's ever aired on the CW, they certainly coulda push it for more seAsons strictly from a business point of view.

 

[startrekwatcher]

I am personally going to miss Sera the writer, she's been my favorite primary character writer on the show since its first season.

I like her as a writer but as a showrunner I'm not impressed--like I felt about Brannon Braga.

And while SPN isn't as good as it best, seasons two and four, and it tends not to have as episodes take it out of the park, I still find it to be significantly above average for tv.

I personally find tv anymore if not out right bad pretty mediocre. Years ago I would have 4-5 must see tv series I couldn't miss and anxiously awaited each week--now I struggle to find just one.

I just don't find television to be as good as it was say ten years ago. The writing, the casting, the storylines just leave a lot to be desired. Shows used to be consistent pretty much providing a good to great episode most weeks now the quality varies wildly not just from episode to episode or season to season but even from within a single episode.

Also too many shows try to copy the LOST storytelling formula and most crash and burn--I'd argue LOST itself didn't really pull it off and it seems to be a style based not on good storytelling but immediate gratifaction in the form of twists and cliffhangers rather than fully developing a story thread. The writers create very limited premise series with unnecessarily conplicated mythologies that they ultimately botch and come to view as a burden rather than an asset.

Hell I think it's worst season (one) is still better then any season of say Smallville, I can't judge One Tree Hill as I only watched one episode, it's not my type of show, I hated that one episode.

I won't argue with that however being better than something decidedly inferior doesn't necessarily make it good or great.

The show just doesn't--for me-- have the feel of what Supernatural when it was in its heyday and after the first few episodes of this season I just couldn't get through an episode without losing interest or fast forwarding on the DVR.

 

[Dorian Thompson]

I think season seven's been better than season six, and I liked season six. Definitely better than Smallville at this point and better than many things on television from a pure character standpoint. Still, a season 8? I'm trepidatious. I wish it luck to succeed.

 

[Mr Light]

I still liked Season Six, but Seven just completely killed my interest in the show. They killed off my two favorite characters and the stories have just been BORING and uninspired, and the new big bads are incredibly uninteresting.

 

[FordSVT]

Yes, CW, milk that cow... milk it!

 

[Joe Washington]

S5 could have been the perfect ending point for the series but I do have some interest in how they plan on ending the show post-S5.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

 

[hyzmarca]

And while SPN isn't as good as it best, seasons two and four, and it tends not to have as episodes take it out of the park, I still find it to be significantly above average for tv. Hell I think it's worst season (one) is still better then any season of say Smallville, I can't judge One Tree Hill as I only watched one episode, it's not my type of show, I hated that one episode.

But as this how continues to drop year to year at a slower rate then any show that's ever aired on the CW, they certainly coulda push it for more seAsons strictly from a business point of view.

Season 1 and 2 had the personal vengeance arc to help make it compelling, as well as freshness. In fact, the vengeance arc episodes are the best. Season 4 had the Sam/Dean/Ruby triangle, Sam developing his powers, and Castiel.

Season 5 was flat because the entire apocolypse wasn't very apocalyptic. Budget constraints were part of the problem, but there was never any real sense that the world was actually in danger.

Season 6 was alright, but the Eve arc was kind of pointless. Season 6 didn't need a big-bad. It just needed to be about cleanup, which would have been messy enough on its own. The best episodes of Season 6 are the cleanup episodes dealing with the fallout from the Apocalypse and Crowley and shit.

Season 7 suffers from flat villains. The Levithans are doing a lot of damage, but they just aren't scary. Really, nothing is all that scary anymore. Everyone's dying, but there's no real sense of danger.

 

[Captain Mike]

Season 7 suffers from flat villains. The Levithans are doing a lot of damage, but they just aren't scary. Really, nothing is all that scary anymore. Everyone's dying, but there's no real sense of danger.

I think just the opposite about the Leviathans. Just how do you defeat something like that which just doesn't die? I know we will probably find out by seasons end by that time.
I like season seven but think it could have been better. I think they decided to go back to the "Monster of the Week" format, which made the Leviathan story line suffer.

 

[mswood]

I still liked Season Six, but Seven just completely killed my interest in the show. They killed off my two favorite characters and the stories have just been BORING and uninspired, and the new big bads are incredibly uninteresting.

Ok, I get Bobby (my personal favorite supporting character), but who else did they kill off?

Reoccurring characters that aren't new to the series besides Bobby are all still alive. Meg, Death, Crowley, Castiel, sheriff Mils, Becky, who else am I missing? And new to this season the only deaths have been some of the early leviathan characters.

The others like Rufus and Jo were already dead.

Or did you mean that over the years they killed your two favorite, because the show has always had a high death count and that's certainly possible.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

I like most of the individual episodes this season but as a whole the season has fallen flat. The Leviathan threat has been underwhelming. Sure they're hard to kill but they don't seem all that dangerous to the the world as a whole. The stakes don't seem all that high or dire.

 

[Mr Light]

I was referring to Castiel and Bobby

Spoiler: recent episodes

So I'm glad to see Cass back, but they basically took him off the screen again. And it remains to be seen how much Bobby will be around as a ghost.

 

[Gotham Central]

I wonder if this series will be pushed to 10 seasons like Smallville.

 

[Dorian Thompson]

I just don't see how they could push it that far. The only reason it maintains quality now is that the characters are so much more consistent and compelling than Clark Kent, Lana et al of Smallville. The characters really are the thing in Supernatural. Also, its bizarre sense of humor and self deprecation. The characters are the thing, though. That Bobby's reappearance could elicit such a strong emotional reaction after all this time proves that. I was surprised at my own "awwwwwwwww" reaction.

 

[AliciaD496]

^I admit I haven't watched Supernatural in a long while...

but CONSISTENT?! Consistent?!! What show have you been watching?!

Sam Winchester of Season 4 and 5 were hardly recognizable as Sam Winchester of Season 1 or 2. He'd changed so much both physically and personality wise he's hardly even the same guy. I understood and sympathized with early Sam, I barely tolerated later seasons Sam. Top that off with the whole 'soulless Sam' thing and he hasn't been the same character in a long time. I kept watching for nearly 4 seasons hoping to see a glimpse of the old Sam again and it just never came.

It's one of the main reasons I stopped watching the show...I never really cared much for Dean, although he got a little better (always a little too scornful against his brother for things, first that he went to college, later the demon blood and Lucifer thing while Sam forgave him for most things right away). If he was going to go on the treat Sam like that he should have left him dead after Season 2, at least he probably was in heaven at that point. I liked Bobby alright as a pseudo-father but more than once I wished he'd smack some sense into Dean AND Sam and tell them it was OK to give up hunting. Seems it was OK for Dean, but Sam gets flack for YEARS for going to Stanford. Couldn't stand Castiel either, and it seems like his arrival was just an excuse to let Dean have a 'softer' side by being buddies with him while he repeatedly kicks Sam while he's down (addicted).

I guess I'm in the minority, and as a former fan my vote probably doesn't count for much, but I want to see them have a happy, non-hunting ending. The show should have ended season 5 when Kripke left. It's sick that they keep dragging it out like this. I like both Ackles and Padelecki as actors and would like to see them, especially Ackles, in something more worthwhile than a CW show.

 

[Dorian Thompson]

I've been watching Supernatural. Considering the trauma they've experienced, the evolution in character is consistent. Clark never changed much. It's why I found him and Smallville incredibly bland for the most part.

 

[startrekwatcher]

With the cheap production, stale plots, cornball episodes and lowbrow humor the only thing the show had left were the characters but for the last two seasons they've been trapped in a repetitive angst-fest that has long since gotten old with the drinking, the wallowing, the arguing. Yawn.