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Once Upon a Time (ABC) - 1x02 till the bitter end

that's great news. by the I love the pot smoking catipiller <(My bad if thats wrong) and why did'nt we see the queen of hearts face?
 
She was good for a young actress and almost a dead ringer. I am just glad to find out why the queen is so pissed at snow. I just thought it was a vanity thing. Now I am wondering if the queen's mother spooked snow's horse.

haven't you ever seen Ed?

The show about bowling Alley lawyer?

As a child Ginnifer was quite unfortunate looking.

(Okay, IMDB says that she was 24 playing a 15 year old.

Meh?

It was probably just a really really bad hair cut.)
 
There's not much time for the Hatter to return, with only four episodes remaining. We may seem him in some flashback as the Queen's backstory shows how daddy Henry ended up in Wonderland. The simplest explanation is that the Queen of Hearts is Barbara Hershey. As for him playing a role in Storybrooke, that would be treading on Eion Bailey's turf. It really is getting to be time for Bailey to do something.

On the other hand, according to IMDB, Jamie Dornan plays the Huntsman again in the season finale! Katherine returning wasn't out of the blue. Regina murdering her didn't seem quite right from the start. But it's hard to imagine what backstory for the Huntsman we be appropriate now. After all, if he had more worth telling, we should have seen it while the counterpart was still alive. If characters just start coming back from the dead all willy nilly it'll hurt the show. Even the lightest of touches can't put drama into immortality.

By the way, Sebastian Stan had a small role in Black Swan. Another indication that Emma will be Black Swan at some point?
 
Well, I thought the explanation of the evil queen's hatred of Mary Margaret/Snow White was lame. She blames a seven-year-old for making an innocent mistake? It was the mom's actions obviously that were the key ones.


the episode just made the evil queen look laughably petty and silly.
 
I see the young Regina AS young, 16 or 17, and when her teenaged heart is crushed with her lover's, she simply snaps. It would make more "sense" for her to be mad/angry at her Mother (Did you spook the horse? I should have let HER die!) but she can't win against Mom so she goes after the step child who "betrayed" her.

What I really liked was seeing yet another confirmation that Mayor Regina really does remember everything from Fairytale land.
 
Yes, remember how petty Regina can be. The truth of the matter is that she knows she can't go after her much more powerful mom so she transfers all her anger onto someone she CAN hurt.
 
so is her mother still alive and who is she in our world?

and was ever protryed in the grimm stories?
 
the episode just made the evil queen look laughably petty and silly.

As opposed to the fairy tale where she just wants to be the fairest of them all . . . ?


I'd think a show like this would want villains who are a little deeper and better motivated than ones out of fairy tales. I get that this show draws stories from fairy tales, but it doesn't need to draw cardboard-thinness of motivations from them.
 
We really need to know how the heart being Kathrerine's was faked.

Wouldn't she just use that part of Catherine's heart which was hidden in her Room of Collected Hearts?

And now I am curious why August either has waterphobia or why the heart's of the fairytale characters has some strange magical effect on him... :wtf:

For a moment there, I actually started to think that he might be the Troll under the Bridge, now THAT would be a twist... :rofl:
 
^^Good point about August's reaction. Judging from the way the camera played on the sign t(r)oll bridge it seems to have something to do with the bridge. Being the troll would seem to make it more comforting than painful, though. He's such a cipher at this point I can't think anything. Except for David Nolan all the other Storybrooke names have a reference to the fairy tale original. It's hard to see why August W. Booth would be different but I haven't found a clue in it yet. According to IMDB, Bey's full name is Baelfire but I don't get any clues there either.

As to the heart, it would be interesting to know if Regina has everyone's heart and why she doesn't use them to ensure an unhappy ending. Also, it appears that destroying the heart kills the person. And lastly, it's doubtful it was just a part of a heart. Somehow it's seems so much more pointless to take out just part of a heart rather than a whole one that the characters must have commented on that if it were the case.

The Queen's hatred for Snow White may have started with her role in killing her true love, but Snow White's existence interfering with manipulating the king (and insulting her vanity that she came second in his feelings,) and, yes, the old fairy tale motive too probably come into play. The back stories are told briskly but the Queen was stepmother for at least ten years. That's a sufficiently long time for an irrational anger to fester into deep hatred.
 
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No one has a heart in storybrook.

Regina had a wall of safety deposit like boxes full of hearts in that episode in which she killed the hunts man.

It's like the heart plugs in Dune, she can kill any of them no matter where they're hiding if they piss her off... And besides, what does death mean to these people if they are avatars and not real flesh and blood?
 
So I could see Mulder and Scully turning up.

Mulder - "seems a woman's heart was found by a river. DNA testing confirms it belonged to a missing person"
Scully - "So what makes this an X-File?"
Mulder - "The missing person turned up alive 2 days later."
"Scully - "Well, that is odd."
 
You are all aware that DNA testing takes weeks to come through in the real world, y'know CSI and law and order are equally full of shit...

Does Storybrook even have a Hospital?

Because the Sherrifs department certainly doesn't have a crime lab.

Just fedexxing the heart out of Storybrook to a hospital/lab would be ...Impossible?

People can't leave story brook, but can "parts" of people leave Storybrook?

With how they were talking in the last episode, I don't think it's a magic barrier or or some dissuasion effect, but it's the mad hatter prowling around the edges picking off anyone who tries to leave.

I think they said "the same thing that Happens to anyone who tries to leave Storybrook."

DNA testing?

Who tested the finger prints?

And what rebellious childhood indiscretion put Mary Margeret on file with local law enforcement?

The evidence aginst Snowwhite was fabricated terribly.

T(r)oll bridge.

That's funny.

Hell yeah.
 
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