Typhon Pact branding

[Christopher]

That's right. As others have mentioned it does seem that if there is more than one of the TNG-era series in a novel in current lit timeline its gets the "Typhon Pact" banner.

Uhh, no, it gets the Typhon Pact banner if it's about the Typhon Pact or one of its members. And if it isn't about the Typhon Pact or one of its members, it won't use that banner, no matter how many series are crossed over in it (DTI: Watching the Clock being a case in point). It's really very simple, no need to try to read some hidden coding into it.

 

[Janos]

That's right. As others have mentioned it does seem that if there is more than one of the TNG-era series in a novel in current lit timeline its gets the "Typhon Pact" banner.

Uhh, no, it gets the Typhon Pact banner if it's about the Typhon Pact or one of its members. And if it isn't about the Typhon Pact or one of its members, it won't use that banner, no matter how many series are crossed over in it (DTI: Watching the Clock being a case in point). It's really very simple, no need to try to read some hidden coding into it.

Ah, ok. So if the foils are...

Romulan Star Empire
Breen Confederacy
Tzenkethi Coalition
Gorn Hegemony
Tholian Assembly
Holy Order of the Kinshaya

... then the novel is called Typhon Pact?

 

[Christopher]

Why is this so complicated? "Typhon Pact" is simply the name of the political alliance including those six powers. If the story involves that alliance, it uses that name. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I am hearing more about Paths of Disharmony regarding Shar and the Andor birthing dilemma. I'm still unsure about picking it up. Without revealing or spoiling the details, does it resolve the whole Andor subplot?

Did you like "This Gray Spirit" and "Andor: Paradigm"?

Then buy "Paths of Disharmony".

 

[Janos]

Why is this so complicated? "Typhon Pact" is simply the name of the political alliance including those six powers. If the story involves that alliance, it uses that name. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

While I enjoy x-overs or books with multiple ST series featured, but the lit series I follow are DS9, NF and now DTI. All of my other ST lit purchases are based on cover jacket narrative. That said, I am interested in the continuing DS9 narrative whether under DS9 banner or not. Hence my questions/comments. This is less of an issue with NF and DTI since those 2 appear to be, for now, only writter by PAD and you respectively.

 

[Janos]

I am hearing more about Paths of Disharmony regarding Shar and the Andor birthing dilemma. I'm still unsure about picking it up. Without revealing or spoiling the details, does it resolve the whole Andor subplot?

Did you like "This Gray Spirit" and "Andor: Paradigm"?

Then buy "Paths of Disharmony".

So, my answer is sadly "no" to your 2 questions, but I am interested in how the Andor birthing issue gets resolved and am interested where Shar ends up in the "current' TNG era lit novels.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I am interested in how the Andor birthing issue gets resolved and am interested where Shar ends up in the "current' TNG era lit novels.

In that case, you have a loose trilogy to look forward to.

 

[Admiral_Young]

The Typhon Pact branding to me, seems similar to what Marvel Comics has done with their "labels" of Heroic Age and currently Shattered Heroes. They're not part of a crossover perse but they're all under a similar "theme".

 

[Janos]

The Typhon Pact branding to me, seems similar to what Marvel Comics has done with their "labels" of Heroic Age and currently Shattered Heroes. They're not part of a crossover perse but they're all under a similar "theme".

Kinda. While Marvel did use those banners, they still have the various Avengers books still using its own title too, e.g. Shattered Heroes / Secret Avengers. Not all the Avengers family books are called Avengers / Shattered Heroes.

 

[Janos]

I am interested in how the Andor birthing issue gets resolved and am interested where Shar ends up in the "current' TNG era lit novels.

In that case, you have a loose trilogy to look forward to.

Cool, I think.

 

[JD]

The Typhon Pact branding to me, seems similar to what Marvel Comics has done with their "labels" of Heroic Age and currently Shattered Heroes. They're not part of a crossover perse but they're all under a similar "theme".

Kinda. While Marvel did use those banners, they still have the various Avengers books still using its own title too, e.g. Shattered Heroes / Secret Avengers. Not all the Avengers family books are called Avengers / Shattered Heroes.

And not all of the present day Trek books are Typhon Pact.

 

[Christopher]

I still think some people are making this too complicated. The Typhon Pact is the name of a specific political entity. Stories about that entity use that name, just like stories about the Titan use the Titan name, or like Keith's Klingon books would've continued to be called Klingon Empire if the series had continued, or like John Byrne's Romulan comics were published under the banner Star Trek: Romulans. It's not a "theme," it's just the name of a particular group that a number of recent and upcoming novels are focused on.

 

[Janos]

I still think some people are making this too complicated. The Typhon Pact is the name of a specific political entity. Stories about that entity use that name, just like stories about the Titan use the Titan name, or like Keith's Klingon books would've continued to be called Klingon Empire if the series had continued, or like John Byrne's Romulan comics were published under the banner Star Trek: Romulans. It's not a "theme," it's just the name of a particular group that a number of recent and upcoming novels are focused on.

I don't disagree with your categorization Christopher. Prior to Destiny there were several "series" that I followed like DS9 and NF. Some of the TP novels continue the narrative of DS9 in particular as well as I understand TNG and Titan (although there are Titan bannered books coming out too). While I'm intrigued by the TP entity, I don't plan on reading all the TP book offerings. I'm particularly interested in the TP books that focus on DS9 relaunch characters. I assume those TP novels continue the ongoing the DS9 relaunch narrative. So, while TP novels are branded in a certain way, the books also advance the TNG, DS9 and Titan narrative. Not sure about Voyager as they seem to be elsewhere in the TNG era novels (I haven't read any of the new ones yet). So its natural that some folks may want to know which TP most directly involve the "old" series they followed pre-Destiny.

 

[JamesRKirk]

I don't care what they call it as long as we get more. Sisko & Bashir's stories are just crying out to be told. Hopefully, Kassidy won't be part of it though. Never could stand the character. Also, it'll be nice to have a Captain that doesn't have an infant child. One was OK, two was pushing it, three is just silly. Nobody has a child for decades and then boom, boom, boom! What is this, Kid Trek?

Sisko is already in a very dark place and it'll be interesting to see him attempt to climb back to the light.

Bashir is just starting his turn towards darkness and he doesn't even know that he's started the trip. I wonder if they'll cross paths on their journey?

 

[Sci]

I don't care what they call it as long as we get more. Sisko & Bashir's stories are just crying out to be told. Hopefully, Kassidy won't be part of it though. Never could stand the character. Also, it'll be nice to have a Captain that doesn't have an infant child.

Rebecca Sisko is 5 or 6 years old as of 2382 -- she was born in 2376. Hardly an "infant child." And hell, the TNG novels have pretty much skipped Renee Picard's infancy -- he's a toddler last we heard from him.

One was OK, two was pushing it, three is just silly. Nobody has a child for decades and then boom, boom, boom! What is this, Kid Trek?

No, it's the Trek Lit writers adding more depth and sophistication to characters that were often written quite shallowly onscreen.

 

[JamesRKirk]

There's more ways to add depth and sophistication that giving three of the captains new babies in short order.

I guess I should be really glad that they didn't want to get really deep and sophisticated and give them twins.

I would have liked to see Picard & Beverly stay single or perhaps come up with some other sort of arraingement other than marriage. It's 300 years in the future. Imagine how different marriage today would appear to someone from 1712. Women not being taken as property. Gay marriage. Common law.

In the novelization of TMP Kirk talked about marriage contracts of a fixed length that were subject to renewal. Let's make the future different than today.

 

[tomswift2002]

What's wrong with the way marriage's are handled in the books? When you look at married couples in the shows there seems to be no mention of them entering into a "contract" (unless it is a Ferengi marriage). But the O'Brien's got married much like today's marriage, although with blends of Japanese and North American customs.

But as for the "Typhon Pact" branding, has anyone noticed that for David R. George's duology coming out in May and June, only Plagues of Night is being labelled (so far on the solicitation covers) as "Star Trek Typhon Pact", but the second book, Raise The Dawn is being marketed as "Star Trek: Chain Of Destiny"?

 

[Sci]

There's more ways to add depth and sophistication that giving three of the captains new babies in short order.

Um, it was the DS9 "Final Chapter" arc, which aired in 1999, that established that Kassidy was pregnant, and Rebecca was born in Unity, which was published in 2003.

Picard and Crusher finally got together in Death in Winter, which was published in 2005; Beverly became pregnant in Greater Than the Sum, which was published in 2008; and Rene was actually first seen as a character in his own right in Paths of Disharmony, which was published in 2011.

Riker and Troi became a couple again in INS, which was released in 1998; married in 2002's NEM; decided to have a child in Orion's Hounds, which was released in 2006; and Natasha was finally born in Over A Torrent Sea, which was released in 2009.

Nothing's been "sudden" about these arcs.

I would have liked to see Picard & Beverly stay single or perhaps come up with some other sort of arraingement other than marriage. It's 300 years in the future. Imagine how different marriage today would appear to someone from 1712. Women not being taken as property. Gay marriage. Common law.

In the novelization of TMP Kirk talked about marriage contracts of a fixed length that were subject to renewal. Let's make the future different than today.

I think a future where the idea that men and women are equal is taken seriously and actually fulfilled, rather than just being given lip service like it is today, sounds different enough to satisfy me.

 

[JamesRKirk]

Notice that I didn't say that Riker & Troi shouldn't have been married. Same with Sisko & Kassidy (blech). We've seen their weddings or at least the reception of theirs and others. Given the freedom that the novels allow why not do something a bit more daring and different with Picard & Beverly?

 

[Sci]

Notice that I didn't say that Riker & Troi shouldn't have been married. Same with Sisko & Kassidy (blech). We've seen their weddings or at least the reception of theirs and others. Given the freedom that the novels allow why not do something a bit more daring and different with Picard & Beverly?

Do Crusher and Picard strike you as the sorts of people who'd be into something different? I mean, hell, Crusher already got married and even assumed her first husband's surname. They seem like fairly conventional people to me.

If anyone was going to have a different sort of relationship, I'd expect it from Riker and Troi. They strike me as far less conventional in their personal lives, and far more likely to established a different sort of relationship. (And, heck, maybe they have -- we don't know all the details of Betazoid marriages, after all.)