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Christopher "Jimmy Nail" Eccleston

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What the hell is going on in here.
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...there's something queer going on there.
And didn't that become a running theme. Eheh.
But ... like Bones' first post, it tried too hard.
Oh burn. It's the ones you love that can hurt you the most.
But it's the first sentence that made me pan your mini-review, Bones. Not only don't I get the "supped his bitter at Rovers Return" reference (I suppose it's got to be said with an accent we Americans can't conjure up in an instant), but it's a damned run-on sentence!
Well you wouldn't get it, Jonathan Foreigner.
And what's with claiming the Doctor had a fag in his mouth?! I don't remember him smoking! Yeah, yeah. I get it, you're giving him a dockworker image ... caricaturizing him. But am I trying too hard by saying you're trying too hard again?
You can say it, but we both know you were laughing into your Mountain Dew.
And besides, Rose is clearly of reproductive age. It isn't creepy for an older man to want to have a go at a pretty girl who's 19, is it?

Is it?
Well aside from the fact "reproductive age" can also be below what is the legal age of consent, and considering how incredibly advanced the Doctor is when it suits the script and she's thick as two front teeth, yes.
Alright, forget I asked. Overall, when the episode was done, I remember not liking it. In fact, I thought it was so bad that I was embarrassed for having shown it to my wife.
Ah-HA!
Mind you, I'd have been even more embarrassed if I'd shown her "Ghost Light".
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The Doctor is 900 years old. The odds of him finding someone attractive around his age to hook up with are slim. If he's willing to be the creepy old dude and the girls don't mind, more power to them.
 
The Doctor is 900 years old. The odds of him finding someone attractive around his age to hook up with are slim. If he's willing to be the creepy old dude and the girls don't mind, more power to them.
Wouldn't have happened in my day. You didn't get McCoy saying "Now Hace, sprrrrread for the Hand of Rrrrrrrassilon!". Times were so innocent no one batted an eyelid at Hartnell giving Susan a smacked bottom.
 
The Doctor is 900 years old. The odds of him finding someone attractive around his age to hook up with are slim. If he's willing to be the creepy old dude and the girls don't mind, more power to them.

He's 1103 now and I'd be more worried about Jimmy The Fish then Jimmy Nail. :techman:
 
Coming back with Eccleston cast as the Doctor was a bold choice really. It would've been easy to cast some more typically quirky chap to fill the role. I liked Doctor Wholigan and his estate girl.
 
So the Doctor comes back and though last we saw of him he was an Edwardian gentleman figure, now he turns up with a rolled up newspaper and a fag in his mouth having just supped his bitter down the Rovers Return,

If, by the above, you mean to say, "The Doctor now dresses like a real person rather than like an elitist historical oligarch who helped dominate an oppressive, classist society," then I completely agree. Working-class Doctor for the win. :techman:
 
So the Doctor comes back and though last we saw of him he was an Edwardian gentleman figure, now he turns up with a rolled up newspaper and a fag in his mouth having just supped his bitter down the Rovers Return,

If, by the above, you mean to say, "The Doctor now dresses like a real person rather than like an elitist historical oligarch who helped dominate an oppressive, classist society," then I completely agree. Working-class Doctor for the win. :techman:

I didn't know elistis wore Cricketeering outfits or 20 foot long scarves. :wtf:
 
I'm still not convinced.

I think he's likely much, much older. He's been saying he's 900 since Peter Davison or so.

No, he was still in the 700s during the Davison years, but he was 953 in Time And The Rani and somehow 907 in The Voyage Of The Damned. :vulcan:

I'm mostly just not convinced that he galavanted around the universe for 200 years in an attempt to avoid his "death." 200 years is a long fucking time, and he didn't even age. I'm guessing that's one of those "the Doctor lies" situations in an attempt to lessen the blow of his death for Amy and Co. If his death was imminent, they might have been more inclined to try and stop it. If his death was still 200 years off, that's way too distant to really prevent.
 
Rose was a hell of a ride for me, and it did what it was supposed to do, made me curious enough about this new show to come back next week.

It made me, one of the "lost generation" who grew up without any Doctor Who on their screens at all (For me a diet of Trek, Buffy and ROBOT WARS (:D ) on BBC2 would have to suffice!) into a fan.
Yes, its not perfect but if you delve deep enough the clues are there of both the show Doctor Who was and what it was to become again.

Clive was a fantastic character I thought ("Someone's come to talk about The Doctor....and its a GIRL?"), great that they used him to establish the "Doctor shows up when there's trouble throughout history" point to a laymen....and the look on his face when he realised his life's work was justified because it was all true, only that fact was now about to shoot him was priceless....

Add in a bit of classic Doctor Who chaos via a classic Monster and you had the perfect introduction imo...
The episode wasn't about the Time War, the Nestene or the Anti-Plastic but re-establishing a whole universe, characters, TARDIS and alien threat so it did a pretty good job to me.

But then I'm not slyly trying to knock it, which is a much easier job in the first place, can we swap? :p
 
Thank Satan shooting finally starts again in three and a bit weeks. Might be something to talk about then.
 
If, by the above, you mean to say, "The Doctor now dresses like a real person rather than like an elitist historical oligarch who helped dominate an oppressive, classist society," then I completely agree. Working-class Doctor for the win. :techman:

I didn't know elistis wore Cricketeering outfits or 20 foot long scarves. :wtf:

The frilled shirts certainly scream oppression to me. ;)


Rose was a hell of a ride for me, and it did what it was supposed to do, made me curious enough about this new show to come back next week.

Same here. It's certainly not the best episode in all of Who but it was interesting and different enough for me to watch the next episode which was the one that hooked me on the show.
Yeah, sometimes, the new show is a bit silly but so was the old one.
 
Coming back with Eccleston cast as the Doctor was a bold choice really. It would've been easy to cast some more typically quirky chap to fill the role. I liked Doctor Wholigan and his estate girl.
I'd have liked it too, if I'd wanted to watch fucking Brookside. Can you honestly say you'd be happy if the 12th Doctor was Tyrone Dobbs and he was accompanied around the universe (or rather, modern day Earth) by Whitney off Eastenders?
So the Doctor comes back and though last we saw of him he was an Edwardian gentleman figure, now he turns up with a rolled up newspaper and a fag in his mouth having just supped his bitter down the Rovers Return,

If, by the above, you mean to say, "The Doctor now dresses like a real person rather than like an elitist historical oligarch who helped dominate an oppressive, classist society," then I completely agree. Working-class Doctor for the win. :techman:
That's funny. That's the kind of thing that'd get laughed out of the Grauniad. But leaving that aside, the Doctor's meant to be alien, and there's not much alien about the bloke who threatens to punch your teeth out because you spilt his pint and has you looking around nervously every time you have to walk past Ladbrokes.
But then I'm not slyly trying to knock it, which is a much easier job in the first place, can we swap? :p
Yeah, go on then.
"Rose was great! Squee! No more wobbly sets, now RTD has brought a joke of a show into the 21st century! And I LOVE gays!"
Your go. Make it funny.
Wow GB, you really are becoming tedious. In the extreme.
Au contraire. But then, haha, if you don't like it then, aha, why are you reading it?!!!!!
 
the Doctor's meant to be alien, and there's not much alien about the bloke who threatens to punch your teeth out because you spilt his pint and has you looking around nervously every time you have to walk past Ladbrokes.

And what's so alien about being an upper middle-class Englishman in fancy dress?
 
the Doctor's meant to be alien, and there's not much alien about the bloke who threatens to punch your teeth out because you spilt his pint and has you looking around nervously every time you have to walk past Ladbrokes.

And what's so alien about being an upper middle-class Englishman in fancy dress?
Well, you don't see them very often. But the tradition behind the Doctor being a sort of Edwardian adventurer follows a classic kind of Wellsian science fiction. At no point in the show's history before Jim Nail taking the role was the Doctor like anyone you'd meet on the street (and much less someone who'd punch your glasses off). If I want to see a binman shagging a chav a fraction of his age, I'll hide around an alley near my house at 11pm on any given weekday.
 
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