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Apple unveil iPhone 4S, release dates for iOS 5 and iCloud

The latest update for the Facebook on iPhone app has been crashing for me nonstop since updating it earlier this week. Anyone else having this problem?

Yes, I shut everything down, started it up again and it seems to be running smoothly now.
 
Wow.. Apple's flagship has finally caught up with state of the art technology.. color me impressed ;)

It's as i always say.. Apple makes good products with innovative designs and ideas but on the technological side there's always something missing or not quite there yet. However it doesn't matter due to the best marketing department in the world and the huge fan base so they can get away with it.

If you put all the good stuff available in the first model, how will you sell someone a new version every single year? Come on, you really think it was a technological or cost consideration not adding USB and a camera to the first iPad? Of course it wasn't, they just wanted you to come back and buy iPad 2 or 3 or whatever.

iPhone 4S? Really Apple? Keep eating this shit up folks, you're welcome to it.
 
The App was running a little slow for me earlier, tried a few simple actions with Facebook but it seems to be ok, Facebooks new layout came with quite a bit of recoding, it'll take time to sync it all up again.
 
Wow.. Apple's flagship has finally caught up with state of the art technology.. color me impressed ;)

It's as i always say.. Apple makes good products with innovative designs and ideas but on the technological side there's always something missing or not quite there yet. However it doesn't matter due to the best marketing department in the world and the huge fan base so they can get away with it.

If you put all the good stuff available in the first model, how will you sell someone a new version every single year? Come on, you really think it was a technological or cost consideration not adding USB and a camera to the first iPad? Of course it wasn't, they just wanted you to come back and buy iPad 2 or 3 or whatever.

iPhone 4S? Really Apple? Keep eating this shit up folks, you're welcome to it.

I think Apple does that intentionally as you pointed out too and one can have mixed feelings about that practice but the competitors do tend to bring out the best possible in the initial release and later models do have better features etc as development progresses.

Apple can only get away with it because of their image, marketing spin and fanbase.. grab a true hardcore Apple fanatic and start pointing out the fallacies of Apple products like missing standard ports in the iPad (USB, microslots for SD cards etc) and he will launch into a tirade of reasons why they're not needed and counterproductive.
 
I think Apple does that intentionally as you pointed out too and one can have mixed feelings about that practice but the competitors do tend to bring out the best possible in the initial release and later models do have better features etc as development progresses.

Really? The Motorola Xoom came out, and the headline features were both aspirational. Adobe Flash support!* 4G LTE!**

* Coming soon!
** Upgradable! Available in seven months!

There's essentially no technological difference between that and if Apple had said at the iPhone 3GS rollout, "Multi-tasking coming soon!" or whatever. The difference is that Apple, as a rule, markets what they're selling, not what they're going to sell later. Apple wants you to compare what they're selling right now to what the competition is selling right now. Other companies seem to want you to compare what they're going to be selling in the future to what Apple is selling right now.

I somehow doubt you'd have been more sympathetic towards Apple if, when they announced the iPad 1, they said that in six months you'd be able to mail it in and have a camera jammed into it for a small fee. Hell, if they'd just canned the iPad 1 and released the current iPad 2 first, you'd end up saying they "obviously" had no technical, mechanical, or supply-chain hurdle preventing them from including whatever new feature next year's iPad has. Forgive me if I don't defer to your vast expertise in the design and manufacture of commercial electronics.

It's like saying the only reason Toyota didn't have a hybrid engine in the Camry in 2006 was so that all the idiots who bought one then would go out and buy the new one in 2007. Believe it or not, Apple, like every other durable goods manufacturer that ever existed, does not expect each customer to buy every single iteration of their products. I know there's a lot of fanfare, and trendy/geeky people who do (despite being locked into two-year phone contracts) but it isn't intended to put the consumer under any kind of obligation.

Just an idle thought, but Dell doesn't get these criticisms when they release an Inspiron with a updated processor.

Apple can only get away with it because of their image, marketing spin and fanbase.. grab a true hardcore Apple fanatic and start pointing out the fallacies of Apple products like missing standard ports in the iPad (USB, microslots for SD cards etc) and he will launch into a tirade of reasons why they're not needed and counterproductive.

And that's just foolish of them. Why, let's look at what I have plugged into my USB ports on my laptop: A trackball, a joystick and throttle (also aspirational), a printer, an iPod cable, a camera cable, a thumb drive, and a hardware security key. All of which would be ever so useful on an iPad.

I can't figure out a way to keep being sarcastic, so I'll just say it directly. Pointer-based input devices are useless for an iPad, it has bluetooth for external keyboards (and, of course, the handsome and somewhat pricey Apple keyboard-and-dock), printing can be done wirelessly, iCloud and wireless synching cut out the need for a physical connection for syncing, the iPad has it's own camera (and card-reader attachments are available if you have a driving need to put photos from another camera on directly without an eye-fi or something), there's this new thing called "the internet" for file transfers, and Apple's evil, draconian, walled-garden App Store makes copy protection measures like my dongle redundant.
 
Siri may not be available in New Zealand!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/5739871/Updated-iPhone-falls-flat-with-fans

A key feature of the smartphone is its ability to understand and respond to spoken questions and commands.
But Apple spokeswoman Fiona Martin could not confirm if the feature would be available in New Zealand.
Technology commentator Colin Jackson said it would be disappointing if New Zealanders missed out. Google had already introduced voice-recognition technology for Android smartphones, and while New Zealand was relatively small it was still an English-speaking country and similar to Australia, he said.
Paul Warren, Associate Professor at the Victoria University school of linguistics and applied language studies, said the technology should be able to cope with New Zealanders' flat vowels.

If they can allow Australians to say 'feesh and cheeps' then they can damn well program it to understand 'fush and chups'!
 
Really? The Motorola Xoom came out, and the headline features were both aspirational. Adobe Flash support!* 4G LTE!**

* Coming soon!
** Upgradable! Available in seven months!

Considering how you're likening a free software upgrade and a free, though annoying, hardware upgrade to having to buy a completely new ~$500 device... I don't think that's really a great comparison.

That said, of course every device manufacturer does this with their hardware to some degree. Apple only gets called out on it re: cameras because it was really obvious after the iPhone4 shipped 2 months after the iPad what Apple's camera related plans were. Though I'm not sure how much that was intentionally holding back as much as, say, wanting to tie the release of Facetime to the iPhone.
 
I guess I just still get frustrated that Apple shoved that shitty fourth-generation iPod Touch camera into the iPad 2, instead of that really very nice glass that was in the iPhone 4. (Then again, it's far more feasible to shoot photos with a phone than it is with a slate, so it makes sense. I just wanted to take a photo of my dinner last night, but my cell phone was charging in my hotel room and all I had was my iPad. :lol:)
 
Then again, it's far more feasible to shoot photos with a phone than it is with a slate.

I was watching news footage of the World Cup here in NZ and some crowd shots had people filming players with their iPads - looked really funny!
 
ohh for the good old days...


August 17,1998

Mac Pravda

The Official News Organ of the Central Committee of Apple Computers

Maximum Leader Jobs Announces New Computer

Central News Service, Cupertino, People's Republic of Apple: Chairman Jobs announced a new computer, named 'iMac' in order to honor the Chairman. 'It is I who am the voice of the people of Apple,' our chairman correctly pointed out. The new computer is the perfect machine for this worker's paradise. People can enjoy downloading software via the Internet from their 100-megabit Ethernet networks, which all homes in the Republic have access to."

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Really? The Motorola Xoom came out, and the headline features were both aspirational. Adobe Flash support!* 4G LTE!**

* Coming soon!
** Upgradable! Available in seven months!

Considering how you're likening a free software upgrade and a free, though annoying, hardware upgrade to having to buy a completely new ~$500 device... I don't think that's really a great comparison.

No, I didn't. Multitasking on the 3GS was a free software update (though I was mistaken when I assumed the LTE upgrade had a cost).
 
No, I didn't. Multitasking on the 3GS was a free software update (though I was mistaken when I assumed the LTE upgrade had a cost).

I thought we were talking about cameras and other major hardware features? That's certainly what FPAlpha was talking about. If not, my mistake.
 
Well, I was specifically hitting the accusation that other companies release the absolute best thing they can, while Apple holds back technically feasible features to spread them out among product revisions. If anything, other companies have been trying to advertise features that they don't yet have, apparently literally holding back things that they could put in at the moment, unless the upgrades they promise are just a bluff.

Really, none of us have the cost/benefit tables or the product development cycles or the manufacturing plans, but it seems apparent that the iPhone is the cutting edge, and the iPod Touch and iPad belong to the same generation as the iPhone before them. That may seem counterintuitive when the iPad 1 was released only just before the iPhone 4, but that seems to be how things are arranged behind the scenes.
 
I liked the iMac G3s. When I worked at Sears we sold them next to Compaqs, HPs and Gateways. They never sold. :lol:

I still had fun playing with one on my lunch break every day.
 
Apple can only get away with it because of their image, marketing spin and fanbase.. grab a true hardcore Apple fanatic and start pointing out the fallacies of Apple products like missing standard ports in the iPad (USB, microslots for SD cards etc) and he will launch into a tirade of reasons why they're not needed and counterproductive.

And that's just foolish of them. Why, let's look at what I have plugged into my USB ports on my laptop: A trackball, a joystick and throttle (also aspirational), a printer, an iPod cable, a camera cable, a thumb drive, and a hardware security key. All of which would be ever so useful on an iPad.

I can't figure out a way to keep being sarcastic, so I'll just say it directly. Pointer-based input devices are useless for an iPad, it has bluetooth for external keyboards (and, of course, the handsome and somewhat pricey Apple keyboard-and-dock), printing can be done wirelessly, iCloud and wireless synching cut out the need for a physical connection for syncing, the iPad has it's own camera (and card-reader attachments are available if you have a driving need to put photos from another camera on directly without an eye-fi or something), there's this new thing called "the internet" for file transfers, and Apple's evil, draconian, walled-garden App Store makes copy protection measures like my dongle redundant.

Thank you for proving my point to the last letter.
 
...and Apple's evil, draconian, walled-garden App Store makes copy protection measures like my dongle redundant.

Try using the App Store on one machine to acquire Lion Server for another machine that isn't (and must never be) on the net.

It's a bastard. Couldn't download it cos it must be on the machine that requests it. And that machine must already be running Lion Workstation (the Server part is only 14mb!).

Let alone the fact I actually need 3 licences. So much for ease of use.
 
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