Was Wanda playing hide the pickle with Doom and Cap at the same time?

[Guy Gardener]

Compare and contrast...

I know that Brubaker made-out that Steve Rogers getting shot was all on the Red Skulls shoulders but please, Steve was stepping in on Doom's bird. There are consequences for chatting up some guys girlfriend when his back is turned. You can't tell me Doom didn't have a gauntlet in that?

I'm a little vague on this, but this "love affair" with Rogers happened just before she "died" but it was just revealed in Children's Crusade that the Scarlet Witch had been intimate with her fiance Victor from before she went bat shit and started disassembling the Avengers and obliterating Mutant Kind.

I'm just saying.

Pointing out the obvious, which we're all thinking...

If one of them had something or caught something, not that I'm saying that they did, during the overlap, and they had to contact all their sexual partners to advise a course of steroids or penicillin, despite being on opposite sides of the moral spectrum, these two blokes would be connected via Wanda Maximoff's bubbling cauldron to one another almost as intimately, that these champions of right and wrong would be scratching at their sacks to exactly the same strain of Herpes while fighting each another to the death in the names of goodiness vs. evilness.

"Clap-Brothers"

It's like Blood-brothers except about a million times more disturbing, and a billion times more common.

 

[Greg Cox]

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Okay, I'm obviously out of date. When did Wanda get involved with Doom?

 

[Hound of UIster]

Re: Was Wanda playing hide the pickle with Doom and Cap at the same ti

Avengers - Children's Crusade.

It was revealed in the most recent issue, her insanity was a result of Doom and her trying to use their magic to bring back her children.

 

[Guy Gardener]

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Well I'm already pushing it with spoilers since that above is the cover to Children's Crusade Number 7 which came out this Wednesday, so I'm a bastard, but here's the skinny.

After house of M, it was revealed that Wanda had gone back to central Europe to live simply. Later Hawkeye (in one of Bendis' books) found her and slept with her. It's just the sort of thing Barton does. But recently it's been revealed that that Scarlet Witch which Clint boinked was a decoy put in place by Doom so that no one would interfere with his impending nuptials. Clint boffed a fembot, and he's been made aware of this misdirected indiscretion... But the Doombot and the real Scarlet Witch, both had amnesia and didn't really understand about all the horrible things that had happened to "them" as the absolute Monarch, in her diminished state, was wooing the Gypsie sorceress with her own room in Castle Doom to "wait for him" in surrounded by all sorts of other unthought of modcons not found in the 15th century(like) hamlet Doom rescued her from.

We've known this for months if not a year because Hienberg is busy and his books ship late, but this week, after her memory had finally been restored, dropped a truth bomb by saying something like "Since the beginning, Victor has always been my side" which is when Hawkeye starts connecting the dots and asks some leading questions to Determine if Doom didn't drive her insane in the beginning of Avengers Disassembled to use her as a weapon or a human Eveready Battery to source some nefarious plot.

So, to answer your question quarter way into Avengers Crusade we discovered she digged Doom and they were getting hitched, but as of a few days ago, retroactively, Doctor Doom and the Scarlet Witch have been an item since the turn of the century back when people were first saying "but there's no such thing as chaos magic!"

 

[DarthPipes]

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I like Avengers Children's Crusade but they've done Wanda no favors over the last couple of years.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

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I like the title of this thread!

 

[Guy Gardener]

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I like Avengers Children's Crusade but they've done Wanda no favors over the last couple of years.

In the 60s, she lost a game of "The bachelor" to marry an eggplant zombie, and as a consolation prize they gave her a toaster to bed. Ironically that's what usually happenes when you lose at a TV dating game. They give you the Home Borad game and a Toaster.

Seriously?

Who's hotter?

Wanda, Mantis or Moondragon?

That judgement was completely political.

Careers have been perpetuated on screwing over this lady decade after decade.

 

[Avalon]

Re: Was Wanda playing hide the pickle with Doom and Cap at the same ti

I like Avengers Children's Crusade but they've done Wanda no favors over the last couple of years.

In the 60s, she lost a game of "The bachelor" to marry an eggplant zombie, and as a consolation prize they gave her a toaster to bed. Ironically that's what usually happenes when you lose at a TV dating game. They give you the Home Borad game and a Toaster.

Hey, hey -- I liked The Vision. I thought he and Wanda were cute together.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Re: Was Wanda playing hide the pickle with Doom and Cap at the same ti

I like Avengers Children's Crusade but they've done Wanda no favors over the last couple of years.

In the 60s, she lost a game of "The bachelor" to marry an eggplant zombie, and as a consolation prize they gave her a toaster to bed. Ironically that's what usually happenes when you lose at a TV dating game. They give you the Home Borad game and a Toaster.

Seriously?

Who's hotter?

Wanda, Mantis or Moondragon?

That judgement was completely political.

Careers have been perpetuated on screwing over this lady decade after decade.

It was the 70s and the bachelor was the toaster. She won and the loser got the eggplant zombie.

Wanda is hotter because she has the best hair. (Moodragon is a non starter)

 

[Hound of UIster]

Re: Was Wanda playing hide the pickle with Doom and Cap at the same ti

Well I'm already pushing it with spoilers since that above is the cover to Children's Crusade Number 7 which came out this Wednesday, so I'm a bastard, but here's the skinny.

After house of M, it was revealed that Wanda had gone back to central Europe to live simply. Later Hawkeye (in one of Bendis' books) found her and slept with her. It's just the sort of thing Barton does. But recently it's been revealed that that Scarlet Witch which Clint boinked was a decoy put in place by Doom so that no one would interfere with his impending nuptials. Clint boffed a fembot, and he's been made aware of this misdirected indiscretion... But the Doombot and the real Scarlet Witch, both had amnesia and didn't really understand about all the horrible things that had happened to "them" as the absolute Monarch, in her diminished state, was wooing the Gypsie sorceress with her own room in Castle Doom to "wait for him" in surrounded by all sorts of other unthought of modcons not found in the 15th century(like) hamlet Doom rescued her from.

We've known this for months if not a year because Hienberg is busy and his books ship late, but this week, after her memory had finally been restored, dropped a truth bomb by saying something like "Since the beginning, Victor has always been my side" which is when Hawkeye starts connecting the dots and asks some leading questions to Determine if Doom didn't drive her insane in the beginning of Avengers Disassembled to use her as a weapon or a human Eveready Battery to source some nefarious plot.

So, to answer your question quarter way into Avengers Crusade we discovered she digged Doom and they were getting hitched, but as of a few days ago, retroactively, Doctor Doom and the Scarlet Witch have been an item since the turn of the century back when people were first saying "but there's no such thing as chaos magic!"

That is not what happened according to the newest issue. The one that slept with Hawkeye was the real Scarlet Witch. The bit about Doom was a reference to the use of their magic to bring back her children that eventually drove her insane.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Re: Was Wanda playing hide the pickle with Doom and Cap at the same ti

I like Avengers Children's Crusade but they've done Wanda no favors over the last couple of years.

In the 60s, she lost a game of "The bachelor" to marry an eggplant zombie, and as a consolation prize they gave her a toaster to bed. Ironically that's what usually happenes when you lose at a TV dating game. They give you the Home Borad game and a Toaster.

Hey, hey -- I liked The Vision. I thought he and Wanda were cute together.

Yeah, I'm a shipper too. What should we call it? Vanda or Wision?

 

[Admiral_Young]

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Is Avengers' Crusade supposed to take place before or after FF? I only ask since Uncle Doom is a member of the Future Foundation right now This is what happens when you have a million books with a hundred different stories supposedly going on at the same time (or relative to each other).

 

[Guy Gardener]

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Steve Rogers is Captain America in Children's Crusade.

The story was (half) written before cap was shot. This is what Alan had in mind for the "ongoing" Young Avengers Limited Series before Marvel told him not to bother because NOTHING should interfere with making more new episodes of Greys Anatomy.

So logically, Children's Crusade is set either before Cap was shot, or after Fear Itself.

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There are over 2000 results to the query hawkeye had sex with a doombot.

And this was at the top of the page, is some commentary along with a scan of the panels where they break the news to Hawkeye that he needs a tetanus injection.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=40725

Doom has been her boyfriend maybe since last millennium, which is why she trusts him and why she let him pump her full of a universal force when there's every chance she'll be turned into a bomb to blow up Reed Richards.

Cart before the horse and all, but if she didn't think they loved each other, Wanda would hardly put herself in such a vulnerable position before the mad asshole despot.

Maybe that's why she kept turning down Wonderman?

Because she was involved with someone else other than her husband?

There was a story in the 60s, where she got a fan letter from Latveria guaranteeing them, Quicksilver as well, safe harbour from Mutant oppression finally, but it wasn't till after 13 hours on a commercial jet liner and 3 days on a train, and still after they actually started looking for a hotel in the quaint town of "Doomstad" that the penny dropped and Wanda says "OH No! I remember now! Isn't this that country that that Villainous Doctor Doom runs?" because they were surrounded by a ring of Doombots.

Roy Thomas.

What a legend,

 

[Nerys Myk]

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If your talking about Avengers #25, that was written by Stan Lee. And it was a long lost aunt living in Latveria that prompted Wanda and Pietro's visit.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Re: Was Wanda playing hide the pickle with Doom and Cap at the same ti

Is Avengers' Crusade supposed to take place before or after FF? I only ask since Uncle Doom is a member of the Future Foundation right now This is what happens when you have a million books with a hundred different stories supposedly going on at the same time (or relative to each other).

And of course, Layla Miller was supposedly living at Castle Doom for the last year or so as well. Given the connection between Wanda and Layla, you would think that that would have come up somewhere.

I liked it better back in the day when things like character appearances were better coordinated at Marvel. Not so long ago, the Absorbing Man appeared in Avengers Academy, X-Factor and a Hawkeye mini all within a month of each other without any acknowledgement of the other stories.

 

[Guy Gardener]

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If your talking about Avengers #25, that was written by Stan Lee. And it was a long lost aunt living in Latveria that prompted Wanda and Pietro's visit.

I rolled the dice.

Had Stan written down for a while, then changed it.

That's the problem with reading essentials, you don't get any real feel for time.

Before the last time you corrected me, not that I mind, I do need it, but I was talking about how Mantis, the Witch and Moon Dragon were in contention to be come the Cosmic Madonna, which was separate and parallel to the Vison keeping his biatches in check.

 

[Nerys Myk]

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Sorry, but your stream of consciousness/wacky wordgames posting style sometimes makes it hard to parse what your points are. So I tossed a dart and hoped to hit the target.

 

[Guy Gardener]

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Celestial Madonna, I mean.

No worries.

How about the time she found this perfectly wonderful God, who Wanda thought would make her happy, and then the damn bastard done married 6 other missuses on the same day!

What a snake in the grass!

But then you know what they say "Bigamy at Christmas"

...

Maybe that's all Doom really needs to calm down and stop trying to take over the world every other week? A good woman to come home to every night and defile the diner table with?

Although.

Wanda could be the inspiration to take over the world faster and harder because that's how Doom impresses the chickadees at the singles bars in Doomstad. It's the modus operandi of most blokes with inferiority complexes and mother issues.

But really Wanda, even though she likes him should be willing to take one for the team (TO SAVE THE WORLD) just to get a book of those personalized cheques which say "Baroness Von Doom" and oh goodness, squee, the Uranium Visa Card!

(Latverian Express?)

But if you've read issue 7 of the Children's Crusade you'll know already that most of this is moot, even though the Witch would be entitled to half of Latveria after the divorce and she could set up a Free Mutant nation, not that didn't work out well in Genocia after the nuking or the Asgardian Colony in Latveria last year after the vivisections.

Something Sue Storm should have done 50 years ago.

Seriously?

Would you rather get up, put on your 200 pounds of body armour and try to take over the world, or spend the rest of morning in bed snuggling with the Invisible Woman, eating cold pizza and watching old movies?

As if any man's hobbies and ambitions can survive a marriage to a woman who knows what she's doing.

 

[Nerys Myk]

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I just can't get over Wanda and Pietro being all family lovey dovey with Magento. ( and visa versa) He treated them like crap when they were in the Brotherhood. Suddenly he comes out as their dad and everything is hunky dory. I'd be holding a major grudge. Then again I'm a fan of the rat bastard Magento, so him being soft on anyone doesn't ring true.

 

[Saga]

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eh, these days Magneto and Quicksilver don't get along at all.