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Rise of the Planet of the Apes - Discussion/Review

Grading of "Rise of the Planet of the Apes"

  • A+

    Votes: 23 23.2%
  • A

    Votes: 29 29.3%
  • A-

    Votes: 24 24.2%
  • B+

    Votes: 10 10.1%
  • B

    Votes: 5 5.1%
  • B-

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • C+

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • C

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • C-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • F

    Votes: 2 2.0%

  • Total voters
    99
A nuclear exchange is still possible in the future of Caesar's world. Likely a nation or nations believing the virus was an attack. Maybe only a limited exchange, but still possible.

Heston's character could also be assuming that nuclear war had come. In the original film wasn't the Heston character an astronaut who was from the past but in stasis for a very long time? So the statue could have simply fallen into disrepair?
 
I imagine they'll stay in the near-future to keep Franco's character around (not to mention Caesar himself; actually, how long does a chimpanzee normally live?).

According to a quick Google search, 60 years in captivity, 35-40 years in the wild.

I'm looking forward to this movie, but I want to get through the original series with my girlfriend first (we've seen the first three so far).

Given the drug and Caesar's intelligence and other aspects it's probably reasonable to assume Caesar, if not all of the apes given the drug, could live "in the wild" whatever the biological lifespan of a their types of primates can live (the average lifespan is different than how long something can actually live) if not as long as person can live.

I do have a couple of questions:

1. Is it just me or did making the cure/virus/drug an aerosol one seem like a really stupid idea?

2. When the guy was exposed to it during the botched MRI with the test ape, doesn't seem likely they would've taken the guy, put him isolation, and done tests and observations on him given the uncertainties of the virus?
 
Just got back from the movie a little while ago, and I loved it. I really hope when/if they do sequels that they stay in the near future, at least for a couple movies. Maybe if it's successful enough we could get a near future trilogy, and then maybe one or two far future ape society movies.
 
Heston's character could also be assuming that nuclear war had come. In the original film wasn't the Heston character an astronaut who was from the past but in stasis for a very long time? So the statue could have simply fallen into disrepair?


As I noted earlier in this thread, Heston and his crew were on the first interstellar mission, not a Mars mission, and they spent 18 months in space at near light velocity, a year of that time in suspended animation. While they hardly aged, the relativistic conditions their speed propelled them 2000 years into the future - a post-apocalyptic future in which the apes came to power and took over what was left of the world (or at least New York).


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To be honest, I wasn't expecting much from this film, and my only motivation for seeing it was that it is sci-fi and I feel obligated to see any sci-fi movie in theatres.

Needless to say, I was pleasntly surprised to discover I enjoyed it. Oh it won't be on my list of favourite movies any time soon, but it is definately an enjoyable movie which I can't really complain about.

On the nitpick side of things, how the hell did The Corporation stay so ignorant that James Franco had Caesar? After John Lithgow ruined McKay's car and Caesar kicked McKay's ass, shouldn't questions have been asked like "why the hell do you have an ape at home anyway?" An investigation would quickly reveal that Franco worked for a Corporation which experimented on apes, and none too quickly he'd be in a position where he'd end up fired. But instead, no one questions the ape, word never gets back to The Corporation and he continues to work for them until he decides to quit. Seemed a bit odd.
 
I watched the news about London yesterday. Then I saw a trailer for planet of the apes. Hmmm...
 
On the nitpick side of things, how the hell did The Corporation stay so ignorant that James Franco had Caesar? After John Lithgow ruined McKay's car and Caesar kicked McKay's ass, shouldn't questions have been asked like "why the hell do you have an ape at home anyway?" An investigation would quickly reveal that Franco worked for a Corporation which experimented on apes, and none too quickly he'd be in a position where he'd end up fired. But instead, no one questions the ape, word never gets back to The Corporation and he continues to work for them until he decides to quit. Seemed a bit odd.

Yea. If a neighbor of mine had a chimp as a pet and worked at a corporation that was involved in drug manufacturing I'd for sure be asking local authorities some questions.

The film seems to imply that the James character doesn't have much interaction wit his pilot neighbor so that makes it slightly more believable. But in the real world, people are much more nosy about what's happening next door and quick to pull the trigger on calling the police to investigate oddities.
 
On the nitpick side of things, how the hell did The Corporation stay so ignorant that James Franco had Caesar? After John Lithgow ruined McKay's car and Caesar kicked McKay's ass, shouldn't questions have been asked like "why the hell do you have an ape at home anyway?" An investigation would quickly reveal that Franco worked for a Corporation which experimented on apes, and none too quickly he'd be in a position where he'd end up fired. But instead, no one questions the ape, word never gets back to The Corporation and he continues to work for them until he decides to quit. Seemed a bit odd.

Yea. If a neighbor of mine had a chimp as a pet and worked at a corporation that was involved in drug manufacturing I'd for sure be asking local authorities some questions.

The film seems to imply that the James character doesn't have much interaction wit his pilot neighbor so that makes it slightly more believable. But in the real world, people are much more nosy about what's happening next door and quick to pull the trigger on calling the police to investigate oddities.

If he didn't have much interaction with Franco's character, that might explain his over-the-top behavior with Lithgow's character. I totally understand why he was angry but if he just took a moment to look at the old guy, he could have seen there was something wrong with him.
 
Yea. If a neighbor of mine had a chimp as a pet and worked at a corporation that was involved in drug manufacturing I'd for sure be asking local authorities some questions.

The film seems to imply that the James character doesn't have much interaction wit his pilot neighbor so that makes it slightly more believable. But in the real world, people are much more nosy about what's happening next door and quick to pull the trigger on calling the police to investigate oddities.

Then again, that guy who kidnapped that girl and kept her in the shed behind his house for 15 years had neighbors, too. And they had no idea.
 
On the nitpick side of things, how the hell did The Corporation stay so ignorant that James Franco had Caesar? After John Lithgow ruined McKay's car and Caesar kicked McKay's ass, shouldn't questions have been asked like "why the hell do you have an ape at home anyway?" An investigation would quickly reveal that Franco worked for a Corporation which experimented on apes, and none too quickly he'd be in a position where he'd end up fired. But instead, no one questions the ape, word never gets back to The Corporation and he continues to work for them until he decides to quit. Seemed a bit odd.

Yea. If a neighbor of mine had a chimp as a pet and worked at a corporation that was involved in drug manufacturing I'd for sure be asking local authorities some questions.

The film seems to imply that the James character doesn't have much interaction wit his pilot neighbor so that makes it slightly more believable. But in the real world, people are much more nosy about what's happening next door and quick to pull the trigger on calling the police to investigate oddities.

If he didn't have much interaction with Franco's character, that might explain his over-the-top behavior with Lithgow's character. I totally understand why he was angry but if he just took a moment to look at the old guy, he could have seen there was something wrong with him.
Regardless whether he realized there was something wrong with Lithgow's character or not, perhaps he was just an asshole.
 
He comes out of the house screaming that his car is "wrecked" and wondering how he's ever going to get to work. When the car is still in perfect working order with not much more than a couple of dents and a broken grille.

Really, overall, it seemed like the guy had some pretty serious rage issues.
 
This is a Planet of the Apes movie, which means the whole point is that we can be horrible people who couldn't justify using the oxygen. The pilot is like the pharmaceuticals boss, the primate center head, his mean son, he's there to show us that.
 
He comes out of the house screaming that his car is "wrecked" and wondering how he's ever going to get to work. When the car is still in perfect working order with not much more than a couple of dents and a broken grille.

Really, overall, it seemed like the guy had some pretty serious rage issues.

Yeah. He seemed to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole for the movie.
 
Which is kind of bad. really all of the human characters were just caricatures broad stereotypes, nor did they really grow. (With the possible exception of John Lithgow's character) James Franco was was very underwhelming and bland, the veterinarian chick was 100% pointless, the boss character was just there to provide the "evil corporate jackassery" element and then the neighbor character and the kid in the zoo/whatever were just the stock asshole characters we want to see get their comeuppances. The humans didn't matter hardly at all. Which was a big weak element in this movie.

The whole movie could've been a mostly "silent" one focusing on Caesar in the prison/zoo with the other primates and it would've been vastly more interesting. Once Caesar was in there the human characters should have mostly vanished and the movie just focused on him and taking over the bizarrely strong hierarchy the zoo apes had the steps he took to get them out of there. (It could have also been made more clear why he wanted to break the others out rather than just himself.) The humans bogged this movie down.

It's still a great flick I really enjoyed but it is not without its flaws.
 
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