Miranda Class Navigational Deflector

[Caesar753]

Since the Miranda Class doesn't have a traditional deflector dish, how does protect itself at warp speed? Is there some other system that this class uses?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Khan's clevage.

 

[Caesar753]

Khan's clevage.

Ha!

 

[SchwEnt]

Well some think the Miranda does have a deflector system, just a different type than the usual Constitution variety.

There are greeblies on the underside of the ship that some have labeled as the navigational deflector. Use your imagination.

 

[T'Girl]

There are two structures to either side of the bridge, that some people think could be part of a deflection system. Not a single large "dish" no, but a possibility.

 

[Forbin]

Those things on the bottom, while they have a clear view exactly forward, have zero upward angle. They're a poor choice for a deflector system,

 

[The Wormhole]

I think the accepted theory is that the Miranda class, as well as the Constellation class have their shield generators configured to provide protection while at warp. Presumably this was experimental and didn't pan out which is why future starships went back to having a deflector dish.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Given that not every spacecraft has a dish, I just figured that the Miranda-class used navigational deflector shields. A dish may only be necessary for projecting a strong deflector (or graviton) beam a substantial distance ahead of the ship perhaps and isn't necessary for every design.

 

[Forbin]

^My thoughts ezzakly.

 

[a fearsome grue]

these (circled in green) are the Miranda class' deflector emitters.

they can also be seen around the glowing blue dish of the Enterprise refit/-A

 

[Timo]

Those things on the bottom, while they have a clear view exactly forward, have zero upward angle. They're a poor choice for a deflector system.

Not significantly poorer than the usual dishes that also have a very limited upward angle.

Really, there ought to be little or no need for an "angle" in a system that deflects targets that lie lightminutes ahead! That is, the most extreme angle that one could ever imagine being needed would be in the order of a millionth of a degree...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Forbin]

these (circled in green) are the Miranda class' deflector emitters.

they can also be seen around the glowing blue dish of the Enterprise refit/-A

Maybe, maybe not - on most plans, they're called out as sensors.

Those things on the bottom, while they have a clear view exactly forward, have zero upward angle. They're a poor choice for a deflector system.

Not significantly poorer than the usual dishes that also have a very limited upward angle.

Really, there ought to be little or no need for an "angle" in a system that deflects targets that lie lightminutes ahead! That is, the most extreme angle that one could ever imagine being needed would be in the order of a millionth of a degree...

Timo Saloniemi

Zero degrees is less than a millionth of a degree .

 

[a fearsome grue]

and the plans are fan-made. It makes sense that a ship without a big, round glowy thing would have something else - something that might be nearby the big, round glowy thing.

(of which on the refit there are three)

 

[ChristopherT]

Having modeled this puppy for Orbiter I'm going to take a stab at the answer! If you have a copy of Mr Scott's Guide to the Enterprise and can take a look at the plans, look at the Inboard Profile. Deck F, all the way in front, on the centerline of the ship. That's where I put the deflector emitters for the Miranda Class ships. Three circles, one for the primary emitter in the center and two backup emitters for more power.

Thanks

ChristopherT

 

[Arpy]

I think those two things look more like clamshell doors than deflectors. Don't they even have steps lleading down to the hull? I think fans don't know what to make of them and assign them to the deflector's role.

I like to think that the Miranda, Constellation, Grissom, etc push particles out of the way with some long shield or warp field configuration. Same for a lot of the alien ships also without deflectors.

 

[Mr Silver]

Does every ship need to have a visible deflector though? Back in the late 23rd century, it could have been that the smaller, more compact ships were given equally compacy deflectors that weren't visible on the surface (Miranda, Oberth). Perhaps the more fancy and bigger deflectors were reserved for the bigger ships?

 

[a fearsome grue]

I don't get why some fannon ships have two navigational deflectors.

 

[Mr Silver]

I don't get why some fannon ships have two navigational deflectors.

If only the explanation was "so they can be recognised as fanon".

I don't really know tbh, if we were to look at practical uses of two deflectors, it might be down to efficiency reasons. Perhaps both deflectors work in unison with each other to allow for riskier movements during warp speed.

 

[Arpy]

We're talking about the Franz Joseph dreadnaught right - with the three in the front and one in back? I have a feeling the extra dishes are from before they were "deflector" dishes specifically. I think that they were thought of as sensors or communications arrays in the early days of Star Trek, and were only included for the same reason the flying saucers that are the primary hulls were included - for looking futuristic and "spacey". Anyone know when they first decided they were "deflector dishes"?

 

[YARN]

That we don't see obvious navigational deflectors on other aliens ships implies starships need not have them either.

They're either not an absolute necessity, or they need not always appear as a big blue dish.