Most hated trilogy: Star Wars prequels or Bayformers?

[Temis the Vorta]

The SW prequels are complete garbage but at least they got my butt in the theater three times. As God is my witness, movies about overgrown kids' toys* will never do that.

*In Star Wars, the characters came first. Toys later. That matters.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

The SW prequels are merely disappointing. Bayformers is completely stupid and without value.

 

[JediKnightButler]

Both Star Wars and Transformers are the two most enduring franchises from my childhood and I still enjoy both of them. I was much more excited about the SW prequels than I was the TF live-action movies though I actually enjoyed them more than I thought I would, particularly ROTF.
Transformers G1 and the corresponding animated movie (one of my favorite movies BTW), however, will ALWAYS and forever be the "real" Transformers to me. I don't really like the look of the new Transformers in the live action movies though I was very happy that they brought in Peter Cullen to voice Prime, which I thought was a nice treat.
As for the Star Wars prequels, I was pretty disappointed with (and severely confused by) TPM when it first came out but thought they did a better job with AOTC (other than the love story) and ROTS, as well as the ongoing Clone Wars series have gone a LONG way towards redeeming the PT for me. Still, my heart will always belong to the OT, particularly TESB and ROTJ.

 

[DigificWriter]

I can tell you from personal experience that the hatred for the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy is grossly over-exaggerated, at least amongst the SW fandom; the people who appreciate that trilogy for what it is and what it adds to the SW saga as a whole actually outnumber - and pretty much always have - those who hate the trilogy... it just seems like the opposite is true because the supporters are not nearly as vocal as the detractors.

I liked the first Transformers movie, but the poor quality of the second film has completely turned me off from wanting to see the third; I MIGHT see it at some point simply to see how the story concludes, but, at the moment, I'm not nearly as interested in it as I might've been had Revenge of the Fallen not had the myriad of issues that it did.

 

[Kegg]

Regarding Grimlock, I think they missed their chance with the Fallen. Those guys could've easily been Dinobots--you just shift the "17,000 B.C." to "70 million B.C." I guess they'd have been evil, but Grimlock beyond good and evil, Grimlock is king.

Yeah it's just... it's been three movies. Three movies. Grimlock isn't a bloody bottom of the barrel toy, I sure as hell remember him being pretty popular (alright that may just be my ranking as a kid, which liked having Optimus and Grimlock in the same ballpark). He turns into a fricking robo-T-Rex! As far as indulgent summer movies about giant robots go, you'd think the one that turns into a T-Rex would merit some consideration...

Like Jurassic Park only... robot. Is there something I'm missing here?

The thing that gets me is the writers basically nixed the Dinobots by invoking the plausibility argument (the car/truck/plane looks are disguises, and a robot dinosaur isn't a disguise of anything).

Because the only time you should ever invoke the much abused concept of plausibility in a Transformers movie is to stop something cool from happening.

Seriously. I might actually see another Transformers movie if I'm promised Grimlock. But as is, feh.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I've got no history with Transformers. Too old to watch the cartoon or play with the toys. Saw the first film, wasn't impressed. Didnt see the sequels.

Star Wars (or a New Hope as the kids call it ) came out the year I graduated High School. So the original trilogy played out as I was become an adult. Sadly the sequels mostly played up the shortcomings of the original trilogy (ROTJ was a warning sign) and none of the charm. You can't go home again.

 

[Myasishchev]

Regarding Grimlock, I think they missed their chance with the Fallen. Those guys could've easily been Dinobots--you just shift the "17,000 B.C." to "70 million B.C." I guess they'd have been evil, but Grimlock beyond good and evil, Grimlock is king.

Yeah it's just... it's been three movies. Three movies. Grimlock isn't a bloody bottom of the barrel toy, I sure as hell remember him being pretty popular (alright that may just be my ranking as a kid, which liked having Optimus and Grimlock in the same ballpark). He turns into a fricking robo-T-Rex! As far as indulgent summer movies about giant robots go, you'd think the one that turns into a T-Rex would merit some consideration...

Like Jurassic Park only... robot. Is there something I'm missing here?

The fact that Bay doesn't care at all about the source material? I'm not even saying it's particularly sacred source material, but he missed the appeal of virtually every character, outside--arguably--Optimus Prime. That's why the Camaro is Bumblebee instead of Hot Rod and Hot Rod doesn't even exist, why the "human" characters occupy something along the lines of 50% of the screentime, why the Dinobots aren't around, and why Starscream isn't a camp gay.

The thing that gets me is the writers basically nixed the Dinobots by invoking the plausibility argument (the car/truck/plane looks are disguises, and a robot dinosaur isn't a disguise of anything).

Because the only time you should ever invoke the much abused concept of plausibility in a Transformers movie is to stop something cool from happening.

Well, there is that, but I think the last thread of plausibility broke when the government was able to cover up Los Angeles being destroyed by giant robots. Bear in mind that the first Transformers was made a half a decade after September 11. You know, when the media disseminated information so quickly that most people in America saw the second plane hit live?

Seriously. I might actually see another Transformers movie if I'm promised Grimlock. But as is, feh.

Well, I would've said the same thing about Devastator. Look how well that worked out.

 

[Nowhere Man]

I like the prequels and I like Transformers, but i'd say Bayformers.

 

[Yminale]

Looking at the amount of money both trilogies made. I would say NEITHER.

Honestly I think Geeks oversell themselves when it comes to determining what is good. It's they who thought that Stars Wars and Transformers were of artistic merit in the first place.

 

[BlobVanDam]

Considering basically nobody here would have seen the third Transformers movie yet (has it even come out yet?), I think this is an unfair question to answer yet.

Without seeing the third Transformers movie, I'd say SW slightly wins, although none of the prequels are any good imo. And while neither of the Transformers movies were intelligent viewing, the first one was good for what it was - a straightforward action movie. The second movie was awful. Assuming the third movie is at least as passable as the first though, I'd easily give the edge to Transformers in this question.

The only reason anyone continued to watch the crap George Lucas shoveled out is because it had "Star Wars" in the title. The first one was cringeworthy and unwatchable, the second one was laughable, but had some charm at least, and the third one looked alright on the surface but was just going through the motions, and completely predictable for obvious reason. I don't feel any of them succeeded.

Hey, I'm not arguing that the Transformers movies are quality cinema though. But they don't create any pretense that they're anything more than just action blockbusters. And in that regard, I feel that the first movie was a success for what it set out to do, and is better than any of the prequels. The second one unfortunately took the faults of the first one and multiplied by 10, and drags the trilogy way down. But for all of its faults, the first movie is still better than any of the SW prequels imo.

 

[Skywalker]

People on the internet overestimate how hated the PT is by the rest of the world.

 

[Candlelight]

I can watch Transformers without fastforwarding through it (although Revenge I usually skip past anything with the twins in it).

I can't watch the prequels without jumping past quite a few scenes.

In fact I usually go straight for the main action.

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

The only prequel film I "hate" is Episode I.

I'm able to watch and enjoy Episodes II and III though (III more so than II, but still).

 

[Mach5]

People on the internet overestimate how hated the PT is by the rest of the world.

I'm in "the rest of the world", and most people around here don't care enough to hate.

Personally, I enjoyed TF1 for all the "cuteness" in its stupidity. It had some incredible CGI and a great musical score, not all jokes were bad etc... Whatever. It may be a bad movie, but I had fun watching it with my brain turned off...

TF2 was embarrassing in every way, the "humor" was criminally bad, the "action" made me nauseous, and I felt a strong urge to kill Megan Fox (quite the opposite of how Bay wanted her the affect the male audience). This is one of those movies I honestly regret seeing.

But to answer the main question, I do believe the first two prequels are among the most hated movies in history. BY SCI-FI FANS! Ordinary people just find them disappointing. And I don't think they really hate Episode III (according to IMDB, RottenTomatoes, and the People's choice award for "favorite movie").

 

[Capt_Pickirk]

Bayformers is the hot dumb chick that you take to the prom that is too stupid to spell simple words, but knows how to have a good time.

The prequels are the annoying kid that used to bully you all the time but continues to hang round you because he thinks you're his friend.



Actually wait...

that allegory doesn't work at all...

damn

 

[Skywalker]

People on the internet overestimate how hated the PT is by the rest of the world.

It is? I'm in "the rest of the world", and most people around here don't care enough to hate.

That's pretty much what I was saying.

 

[Mach5]

that allegory doesn't work at all...

It would if you added one thing. That annoying kid won't leave you alone because there is SOMETHING that is (for some intangible reason) stopping YOU from getting rid of him.

The prequels are one of those things some people just can't get over and leave behind.

BTW, once again I challenge Gaith and his PRS gang to rally against the PT on the TPM 3D opening day, banners, chanting and everything.

That's pretty much what I was saying.

Uhm... I could have sworn it said "underestimate"

 

[DarKush]

Transformers definitely. Despite my issues with the SW prequels, I enjoyed the end of TPM, and all of AOTC and ROTS, which wound up being one of the best entries in the entire saga. As for Transformers, I think the first two films were abominations. The designs were ugly, the characters either ciphers, stupid, or offensive (Mudflap and Skids), and it just felt so pointless. They took a really cool cartoon/comic and ripped out its heart, turned it completely into a mindless, soulless vehicle to sell toys. Even Hasbro knew that they needed to have real characters and a storyline (albeit a simple one) to really hook kids. Have our minds devolved so much in the 20 years since the cartoon premiered that Bay's Transformers are acceptable? I wonder if his Transformers would've passed muster back in the day?

 

[TheBrew]

Neither, because only pathetic people actually obsess over and hate movies that are over a decade old.

You don't see this level of obsessive hatred directed towards "Jury Duty".

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]