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Nostradamus

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Michel de Nostredame (1503 – 1566), Interpretations
Most of the quatrains deal with disasters, such as plagues, earthquakes, wars, floods, invasions, murders, droughts, and battles – all undated and based on foreshadowings by the Mirabilis Liber. Some quatrains cover these disasters in overall terms; others concern a single person or small group of people. Some cover a single town, others several towns in several countries. A major, underlying theme is an impending invasion of Europe by Muslim forces from further east and south headed by the expected Antichrist, directly reflecting the then-current Ottoman invasions and the earlier Saracen (that is, Arab) equivalents, as well as the prior expectations of the Mirabilis Liber. All of this is presented in the context of the supposedly imminent end of the world – even though this is not in fact mentioned – a conviction that sparked numerous collections of end-time prophecies at the time, not least an unpublished collection by Christopher Columbus. Nostradamus enthusiasts have credited him with predicting numerous events in world history, from the Fire of London, the rise of Napoleon and Hitler, to the 11 September attacks on the World Trade Center, but only ever in hindsight. Skeptics such as James Randi suggest that his reputation as a prophet is largely manufactured by modern-day supporters who fit his words to events that have either already occurred or are so imminent as to be inevitable, a process sometimes known as "retroactive clairvoyance" (postdiction). There is no evidence in the academic literature to suggest that any Nostradamus quatrain has ever been interpreted as predicting a specific event before it occurred, other than in vague, general terms that could equally apply to any number of other events. In particular, no quatrain suggests, as is often claimed by books and films on the alleged Mayan Prophecy, that the world will end in December 2012...

^Thank you Wiki.

There is a lot to be said about this sixteenth century pharmacist who turned to the occult. Nostradamus published weather predictions for crops, when to sow, when to reap, that kind of stuff was his day job, that he himself pioneered. Also known as 'The Seer', it is said that he believed that his visions were a gift from God and that it was his duty to warn mankind. So he wrote poems of one hundred verses, called centurys baring four lines a verse called quatrains. It is said that these are riddled with warnings.

Urban myth, folklore or fact, there are a lot of stories about Nostradamus.

Could Nostradamus really see into the future?
 
I'm willing to bet Nostradamus didn't predict the number of threads the OP would be starting in just a few days.
 
Guh, life is so boring sometimes.

Could'nt a little mis-placed faith every now and then be harmless fun? :)
 
No, Nostradamus couldn't see into the future any more than the guy I ran into in the washroom the other day could read minds.

Could'nt a little mis-placed faith every now and then be harmless fun? :)

This is the third or tenth time I've noticed this. When you make a contraction using the word "not" it's done as "-n't" not "-'nt"

So it would be couldn't not could'nt. :techman:
 
If nothing else, this thread is giving the punctuation nazis something to do.

Nostradamus had the vision, end of story....or is it?
 
Michel de Nostredame (1503 – 1566), Interpretations
Most of the quatrains deal with disasters, such as plagues, earthquakes, wars, floods, invasions, murders, droughts, and battles – all undated and based on foreshadowings by the Mirabilis Liber. Some quatrains cover these disasters in overall terms; others concern a single person or small group of people. Some cover a single town, others several towns in several countries. A major, underlying theme is an impending invasion of Europe by Muslim forces from further east and south headed by the expected Antichrist, directly reflecting the then-current Ottoman invasions and the earlier Saracen (that is, Arab) equivalents, as well as the prior expectations of the Mirabilis Liber. All of this is presented in the context of the supposedly imminent end of the world – even though this is not in fact mentioned – a conviction that sparked numerous collections of end-time prophecies at the time, not least an unpublished collection by Christopher Columbus. Nostradamus enthusiasts have credited him with predicting numerous events in world history, from the Fire of London, the rise of Napoleon and Hitler, to the 11 September attacks on the World Trade Center, but only ever in hindsight. Skeptics such as James Randi suggest that his reputation as a prophet is largely manufactured by modern-day supporters who fit his words to events that have either already occurred or are so imminent as to be inevitable, a process sometimes known as "retroactive clairvoyance" (postdiction). There is no evidence in the academic literature to suggest that any Nostradamus quatrain has ever been interpreted as predicting a specific event before it occurred, other than in vague, general terms that could equally apply to any number of other events. In particular, no quatrain suggests, as is often claimed by books and films on the alleged Mayan Prophecy, that the world will end in December 2012...

^Thank you Wiki.

There is a lot to be said about this sixteenth century pharmacist who turned to the occult. Nostradamus published weather predictions for crops, when to sow, when to reap, that kind of stuff was his day job, that he himself pioneered. Also known as 'The Seer', it is said that he believed that his visions were a gift from God and that it was his duty to warn mankind. So he wrote poems of one hundred verses, called centurys baring four lines a verse called quatrains. It is said that these are riddled with warnings.

Urban myth, folklore or fact, there are a lot of stories about Nostradamus.

Could Nostradamus really see into the future?

Nostradamus' predictions were bullshit.
 
If someone came to me on 9/10/01 and told me what Nostrodamus predicted for the next day and it happened, then I'd say you might have something there. Might.

But don't come to me with some cryptic message from the 16th Century on 9/12/01 and tell me this Nostrodamus predicted the events of 9/11. That's hogwash.
 
humans are hard wired to look for patterns, faces mostly, but also numbers and words
Nostradamus' writings are simply vague enough to be wrapped around almost any historical event . . .
we see the patterns in his writings and stretch them to fit the patterns of history
 
Has any of Nostradamus' predictions been before the fact or have they all been afterwards. "Oh yeah. That sort of makes sense."
 
Nostradamus' writings are simply vague enough to be wrapped around almost any historical event . . .

It's exactly that. He wrote in a mixt of various languages : French, Provençal (a regional language in the south of France), Latin and I don't know what. That gives you something very vague, difficult to interpret. Saddly, what you read in English is not as vague : it has already been interpreted. Never trust the quatrains in English. It has been translated and interpreted by people who wanted to find something in them. The real thing, in its original language, is a lot more suspicious than that.
 
Your knowledge of Nostradamus impresses me, Shaytan.

I'm not saying he was (or wasn't) a prophet, but Nostradamus as a historical figure does interest me. - I guess it's the fascination that's captured my attention.
 
Nostradamus' writings are simply vague enough to be wrapped around almost any historical event . . .

It's exactly that. He wrote in a mixt of various languages : French, Provençal (a regional language in the south of France), Latin and I don't know what. That gives you something very vague, difficult to interpret. Saddly, what you read in English is not as vague : it has already been interpreted. Never trust the quatrains in English. It has been translated and interpreted by people who wanted to find something in them. The real thing, in its original language, is a lot more suspicious than that.

So you mean he didn't write "Yo Europe, watch out for that Hitler bastard, he's gonna fuck you up" :(
 
To quote my favorite Tim Minchin piece: "Throughout history, every mystery ever solved has turned out be NOT MAGIC."

There's no such thing as a psychic. It's all bullshit.
 
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