Apple restrict ability for do-it-yourself HDD replacements on iMacs
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Re: Apple restrict ability for do-it-yourself HDD replacements on iMac
I love the smell of vendor lock-in in the morning... er, afternoon.
I love the smell of vendor lock-in in the morning... er, afternoon.
Re: Apple restrict ability for do-it-yourself HDD replacements on iMac
Damn. Sounds like they're taking a page out of the old Compaq proprietary playbook and taking a step backwards. I've been an Apple advocate for years, but now I'm smelling some serious bloated corporate rot on this one.
Damn. Sounds like they're taking a page out of the old Compaq proprietary playbook and taking a step backwards. I've been an Apple advocate for years, but now I'm smelling some serious bloated corporate rot on this one.
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Don't get my wrong, I love my IPad 2 to death but you'd think that Apple would have learned back in the 1980's the valuable lesson about closed source hardware or software is how to destroy a company?
Don't get my wrong, I love my IPad 2 to death but you'd think that Apple would have learned back in the 1980's the valuable lesson about closed source hardware or software is how to destroy a company?
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That's funny considering Apple's basically created the portable music player market with the iPod--an utterly closed device that's tightly integrated with iTunes and only natively supports Apple formats.
Basically, most people don't give a shit whether something is "open" or "closed," they just want it to work and do what they want with a minimum of hassle. Apple offers that, but at too high a price for my liking (in both cash and philosophical tradeoffs.)
That's funny considering Apple's basically created the portable music player market with the iPod--an utterly closed device that's tightly integrated with iTunes and only natively supports Apple formats.
Basically, most people don't give a shit whether something is "open" or "closed," they just want it to work and do what they want with a minimum of hassle. Apple offers that, but at too high a price for my liking (in both cash and philosophical tradeoffs.)
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Well, I won't be recommending iMacs anymore. One of the pluses I gave to my PC loving friends was that you could replace hardware with little trouble.
Well, I won't be recommending iMacs anymore. One of the pluses I gave to my PC loving friends was that you could replace hardware with little trouble.
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What? Do you hate your friends? Why would you suggest an iMac for that reason?
I agree this sucks on a philosophical level, but on a more practical level who really wants to be opening an iMac anyway? I do a ton of my own computer work and I'm pretty sure I'd still pay a tech to work on an iMac. Dealing with the way that screen is attached makes iMac work a step up from any sort of laptop work (which is hard enough, thanks).
I predict this will affect less than 1% of iMac owners. If you look at it that way I'm not really sure that Apple needs to cater to such a small crowd.
What? Do you hate your friends? Why would you suggest an iMac for that reason?
I agree this sucks on a philosophical level, but on a more practical level who really wants to be opening an iMac anyway? I do a ton of my own computer work and I'm pretty sure I'd still pay a tech to work on an iMac. Dealing with the way that screen is attached makes iMac work a step up from any sort of laptop work (which is hard enough, thanks).
I predict this will affect less than 1% of iMac owners. If you look at it that way I'm not really sure that Apple needs to cater to such a small crowd.
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I used the phrase "one of the pluses" for that reason. One of the appeals of the iMac was that I could drop all my data onto a backup disc, put the new drive in, have the data back on the iMac in about 20 minutes.
I do. Maintenance was easy.
Oh, no, I never had a problem opening my iMac. It was easier than some PCs.
Consider it just another reason to have one, and with the "easy maintenance" prospect diminished, the negatives of higher price and closed OS make it a little more difficult to sell. I consider expandability a huge factor. You want to be more open when it comes to hardware expansion and upgrade, not less.
I used the phrase "one of the pluses" for that reason. One of the appeals of the iMac was that I could drop all my data onto a backup disc, put the new drive in, have the data back on the iMac in about 20 minutes.
I do. Maintenance was easy.
Oh, no, I never had a problem opening my iMac. It was easier than some PCs.
Consider it just another reason to have one, and with the "easy maintenance" prospect diminished, the negatives of higher price and closed OS make it a little more difficult to sell. I consider expandability a huge factor. You want to be more open when it comes to hardware expansion and upgrade, not less.
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As do I, which is why I don't own an iMac.
There's nothing wrong with your preferences, I just think you're pretty unique...if people want an upgradable Mac they'll get a Mac Pro. The number of people like you (who want to upgrade and are willing to work in an iMac) is probably quite small.
As do I, which is why I don't own an iMac.
There's nothing wrong with your preferences, I just think you're pretty unique...if people want an upgradable Mac they'll get a Mac Pro. The number of people like you (who want to upgrade and are willing to work in an iMac) is probably quite small.
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To be fair, I just really like opening things up. When I first got my iMac, I tore it down and rebuilt it (well, as much as one can). It was very easy to replace the hardware.
To be fair, I just really like opening things up. When I first got my iMac, I tore it down and rebuilt it (well, as much as one can). It was very easy to replace the hardware.
Re: Apple restrict ability for do-it-yourself HDD replacements on iMac
So are you saying that MP3 is an Apple format?
So are you saying that MP3 is an Apple format?Re: Apple restrict ability for do-it-yourself HDD replacements on iMac
This is a taste of what is to come. Vendor locked-in hardware is the future. Operating systems that only work with vendor-locked in hardware is the future.
Be afraid.
This is a taste of what is to come. Vendor locked-in hardware is the future. Operating systems that only work with vendor-locked in hardware is the future.
Be afraid.
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I was under the impression iPods didn't play MP3, only AAC/MP4. Have they always played MP3s? If so, then I have been misled for a long time. Whoops.
I'll take my lumps now. 
I was under the impression iPods didn't play MP3, only AAC/MP4. Have they always played MP3s? If so, then I have been misled for a long time. Whoops.
I'll take my lumps now. Re: Apple restrict ability for do-it-yourself HDD replacements on iMac
Yeah they play MP3's, I think the confusion come's from the fact that like lots of shitty mp3 players of the past you could only get those mp3's on your player by going through itunes. No option for simple drag and drop operation. This hard drive thing isn't a big deal because I'm guessing the iMac customer base largely wouldn't bother to try to change the harddrive themselves. Why miss an opportunity to go to the Apple store and spend money right? Sometimes you have to protect the consumer from themselves.
Yes, iPods have always played MP3s. Because if they don't, what the hell have I been playing on mine?
Yeah they play MP3's, I think the confusion come's from the fact that like lots of shitty mp3 players of the past you could only get those mp3's on your player by going through itunes. No option for simple drag and drop operation. This hard drive thing isn't a big deal because I'm guessing the iMac customer base largely wouldn't bother to try to change the harddrive themselves. Why miss an opportunity to go to the Apple store and spend money right? Sometimes you have to protect the consumer from themselves.
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But the iTunes Store only sells AAC, right? Maybe that's how I got confused. I was sure iPods only played MP3s through the use of third-party hacks. I have no idea who gave me such an idea, but it sounded like a totally Apple thing to do so I bought it.
iTunes is the only legit way to get music onto your iPod, though, right?
Yes, iPods have always played MP3s. Because if they don't, what the hell have I been playing on mine?
But the iTunes Store only sells AAC, right? Maybe that's how I got confused. I was sure iPods only played MP3s through the use of third-party hacks. I have no idea who gave me such an idea, but it sounded like a totally Apple thing to do so I bought it.
iTunes is the only legit way to get music onto your iPod, though, right?
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Winamp worked for me; I didn't want itunes. But my ipod battery doesn't charge anymore and I haven't touched it for a couple of years.
Winamp worked for me; I didn't want itunes. But my ipod battery doesn't charge anymore and I haven't touched it for a couple of years.
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No idea, actually. Most of my library was imported from CDs, so most of it is in MP3 format.
I'm not sure. On a Mac, maybe, but I recall the subject coming up in another thread here and there was a third-party solution for Windows that acted as an iTunes replacement. I don't think it required jailbreaking, either.
Actually, as far as Macs go, there's always PhoneView, though you'd have to know exactly where to (manually) place the media files for it to work. So in principle, there's other ways; iTunes is just the easiest.
No idea, actually. Most of my library was imported from CDs, so most of it is in MP3 format.
I'm not sure. On a Mac, maybe, but I recall the subject coming up in another thread here and there was a third-party solution for Windows that acted as an iTunes replacement. I don't think it required jailbreaking, either.
Actually, as far as Macs go, there's always PhoneView, though you'd have to know exactly where to (manually) place the media files for it to work. So in principle, there's other ways; iTunes is just the easiest.
