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Just had my first real work out.

This lady needs a medal for honesty.

Through super-science and arcane knowledge, I've estimated that I would be 52% happier if I'd been born a woman.


52% happier
- 9% happiness for lower income
- 13% constant harassment
- 30% cramps....

I question your numbers. They seem convenient. :shifty:

Are you sure you've thought this through?
I always imagined I'd like the constant harassment...
There is nothing to like about smelly men old enough to be your grandfather licking their lips and stroking their genitals every time you pass them on the street.

Except maybe indulging in the occasional homicidal fantasy.
 
Ah I remeber my first workout in weight class in high school.
I started my benching at 85LBS. I couldn't even lift myself up for a pull-up or do DIPs.
If you don't think your making any progress just remember If I can do it anybody can.
At the end of my 3 month weight class. I was able to bench 165. Squat 200. and lift and press 145.
Best advice I got, go up 5lbs every week.
 
thestrangequark said:
There is nothing to like about smelly men old enough to be your grandfather licking their lips and stroking their genitals every time you pass them on the street.

Except maybe indulging in the occasional homicidal fantasy.

I can't say I've ever noticed this was a particularly endemic problem around these parts. But it sounds kind of great.

Though I can accept that it's vaguely menacing, too, which isn't cool. I'll admit I'm not sure how much a thirty or forty pound difference would make to my sense of physical security.

How about just leering? I check girls out all the time, and at times it may reasonably be characterized as leering. There's no ill intent behind it, and from my end it seems like a nice or neutral thing. Personally, I think I could take the compliment.* God knows when women (on the occasion) leer back it isn't taken as a profound insult; it's good stuff. That's probably my biggest double-standard beef. And I hate beef.

*Of course, in such circumstances, I do not grope myself, unless it's contextually appropriate. For example, if The Divinyls are playing.

{emilia}[/quote said:
In Iran maybe.
Where I live? Not so much. ;)
I don't feel particularly suppressed.

Well, I'm pretty sure I'm dead either way in Iran.

I'm going to guess you're near the Pacific or Europe. You're way too mellow to live in Regular America.

KJBushway said:
I started my benching at 85LBS. I couldn't even lift myself up for a pull-up or do DIPs.

You know, I have no idea if I can do a pull-up or not. I have to assume I can, but my shower rod is just not made for that kind of thing. It's a shame, because my biceps really should be a focus area, since they're out (versus my pecs, e.g., which no one except Superman can tell are getting into decent territory).

I have know idea what a DIP is. Oh. It's not an acronym, it's that thing with the bars.
 
^ I was heavier than I could handle. My arms could only do 135 maybe, I am 175.
By the end, I was adding weight when I did push-ups and DIPS.
 
thestrangequark said:
There is nothing to like about smelly men old enough to be your grandfather licking their lips and stroking their genitals every time you pass them on the street.

Except maybe indulging in the occasional homicidal fantasy.

I can't say I've ever noticed this was a particularly endemic problem around these parts. But it sounds kind of great.

Though I can accept that it's vaguely menacing, too, which isn't cool. I'll admit I'm not sure how much a thirty or forty pound difference would make to my sense of physical security.

How about just leering? I check girls out all the time, and at times it may reasonably be characterized as leering. There's no ill intent behind it, and from my end it seems like a nice or neutral thing. Personally, I think I could take the compliment.* God knows when women (on the occasion) leer back it isn't taken as a profound insult; it's good stuff. That's probably my biggest double-standard beef. And I hate beef.

*Of course, in such circumstances, I do not grope myself, unless it's contextually appropriate. For example, if The Divinyls are playing.
I'll avoid stepping on this particular soapbox so as to not completely derail the thread, but just a brief note: looking is fine, leering is not. This can be expanded to: being a man is okay, being a creepster is not.
 
One of my abiding principles is low-cost*, which is why my work-out sort of sucks. Just lifting random objects around the house. A 24 pack of soda is like 22 pounds, for example.

I'm thinking I might start wearing my backpack full of large scholarly tomes while I do push-ups, too. I'm not sure if it'll balance correctly, but I'm probably close to the point where all I'm adding is endurance to my calisthenics routine.

*It's kind of retarded to pay $20-40 for a few pieces of iron, when I can get a bucketfull of water for roughly 50 cents.

thestrangequark said:
I'll avoid stepping on this particular soapbox so as to not completely derail the thread, but just a brief note: looking is fine, leering is not. This can be expanded to: being a man is okay, being a creepster is not.

I always get off on weird tangents in these things. Anyway, I'm not really confident I can tell the difference. It's just sort of annoying that someone else gets the monopoly on determining the meaning of a relatively passive behavior.
 
One of my abiding principles is low-cost... Just lifting random objects around the house.I'm thinking I might start wearing my backpack full of large scholarly tomes while I do push-ups, too.

Ah, the Rocky IV approach...

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZA6mvMXxBQ[/yt]
 
thestrangequark said:
I'll avoid stepping on this particular soapbox so as to not completely derail the thread, but just a brief note: looking is fine, leering is not. This can be expanded to: being a man is okay, being a creepster is not.

I always get off on weird tangents in these things. Anyway, I'm not really confident I can tell the difference. It's just sort of annoying that someone else gets the monopoly on determining the meaning of a relatively passive behavior.

leer |li(ə)r|
verb [ intrans. ]
look or gaze in an unpleasant, malicious, or lascivious way : bystanders were leering at the nude painting | [as adj. ] ( leering) every leering eye in the room was on her.

Emphasis mine. The difference is the passivity. Once it stops being passive and starts making the woman feel uncomfortable and unsafe, it stops being appropriate. It's not monopolizing the definition, it's understanding it.

But there I go again! Let's get back to workouts. I can leg press 550lbs. Not bad for a petite chick!
 
Congratulations, Trekker.

And if you're doing it right, you'll learn about DOMS--Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness. It'll be bad tomorrow and maybe worse the next day, but you should be fine after that.

You might want to check out the "Fitness Check-in" thread in the Sports fourm, too--there's a couple of guys who really shred it posting in there.
 
Not surprised, do to the extra muscles lining a womans stomach, you should be able to press more.
But yeah 550. I never did that, though I was interested. You beat one boy in my weight class. He got stuck on the machine and his knees where at his chest for about 10mins before somebody saw he was in trouble.
 
^The great part is that I don't even strength train my legs -- I bet I could press something massive if I worked on it. The sucky part is that my calves have a 15 diameter of solid muscle, which makes shopping for sexy boots difficult. :(
 
thestrangequark said:
There is nothing to like about smelly men old enough to be your grandfather licking their lips and stroking their genitals every time you pass them on the street.

Except maybe indulging in the occasional homicidal fantasy.

I can't say I've ever noticed this was a particularly endemic problem around these parts. But it sounds kind of great.

Though I can accept that it's vaguely menacing, too, which isn't cool. I'll admit I'm not sure how much a thirty or forty pound difference would make to my sense of physical security.

How about just leering? I check girls out all the time, and at times it may reasonably be characterized as leering. There's no ill intent behind it, and from my end it seems like a nice or neutral thing. Personally, I think I could take the compliment.* God knows when women (on the occasion) leer back it isn't taken as a profound insult; it's good stuff. That's probably my biggest double-standard beef. And I hate beef.

*Of course, in such circumstances, I do not grope myself, unless it's contextually appropriate. For example, if The Divinyls are playing.

{emilia}[/quote said:
In Iran maybe.
Where I live? Not so much. ;)
I don't feel particularly suppressed.

Well, I'm pretty sure I'm dead either way in Iran.

I'm going to guess you're near the Pacific or Europe. You're way too mellow to live in Regular America.

KJBushway said:
I started my benching at 85LBS. I couldn't even lift myself up for a pull-up or do DIPs.

You know, I have no idea if I can do a pull-up or not. I have to assume I can, but my shower rod is just not made for that kind of thing. It's a shame, because my biceps really should be a focus area, since they're out (versus my pecs, e.g., which no one except Superman can tell are getting into decent territory).

I have know idea what a DIP is. Oh. It's not an acronym, it's that thing with the bars.

OOPs didn't see the end.
Ok dips are basically where you hold onto two bars separate, with each arm on one bar and lift yourself up and down using your shoulders and triceps. You face the wall or do it from behind.
 
{ Emilia } said:
I gotta admit being a girl is pretty nice and slack.
You don't have to do all the "work" of actually asking guys out. Instead it's the guys who have to come with original pick-up lines and all that stuff which sounds like a major pain.

This lady needs a medal for honesty.

Through super-science and arcane knowledge, I've estimated that I would be 52% happier if I'd been born a woman.


52% happier
- 9% happiness for lower income
- 13% constant harassment
- 30% cramps....

Are you sure you've thought this through?

Not having to play an active role in getting a mate.
Not needing that higher income because it's expected of the mate to be the higher earner, in fact it's possible and reasonable to just stay at home and take care of the place and he kids.
 
Not having to play an active role in getting a mate.
Not needing that higher income because it's expected of the mate to be the higher earner, in fact it's possible and reasonable to just stay at home and take care of the place and he kids.
Oh shut up Trekker. Are you seriously comparing sexual harassment and workplace discrimination with "oh no I have to get out and talk with a girl?". Geez.

Also, "expected of the mate to be the higher earner"? This isn't the 50s, you know. Get a grip, man. Seriously.
 
Not having to play an active role in getting a mate.
Not needing that higher income because it's expected of the mate to be the higher earner, in fact it's possible and reasonable to just stay at home and take care of the place and he kids.
Oh shut up Trekker. Are you seriously comparing harassment and discrimination with "oh no I have to get out and actually talk with a girl?". Get a grip, man. Seriously.

Nope.
 
The sucky part is that my calves have a 15 diameter of solid muscle, which makes shopping for sexy boots difficult. :(
Look at the bright side! With calves like that, you don't need sexy boots. ;)

Touche!

This lady needs a medal for honesty.

Through super-science and arcane knowledge, I've estimated that I would be 52% happier if I'd been born a woman.


52% happier
- 9% happiness for lower income
- 13% constant harassment
- 30% cramps....

Are you sure you've thought this through?

Not having to play an active role in getting a mate.
Bullshit.
Not needing that higher income because it's expected of the mate to be the higher earner
Bullshit.
in fact it's possible and reasonable to just stay at home and take care of the place and he kids.
bullshit
 
Yeah, it was mostly bullshit.

But, still, women don't have to play a greatly active role in getting someone. Sure the trade-off with that is getting harassed and I know how bad it can be as I've seen it and know people who do it and suffer from it.

Still, from my POV, it'd be nice to be "harassed."
 
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