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Obama in for 2012? Where do you stand?

Where do you stand on Obama?

  • Voted for him. Still support him.

    Votes: 70 57.4%
  • Voted for him. Do not support him anymore.

    Votes: 10 8.2%
  • Eh. Undecided/Don't Care/Never did.

    Votes: 8 6.6%
  • Did not vote for him. Support him now.

    Votes: 6 4.9%
  • Did not vote for him. Still do not support him.

    Votes: 28 23.0%

  • Total voters
    122
That would make the amicus very brief, don't you think? ;)

This would be funny if it weren't not so funny. Sorry, but I don't find it funny to crack jokes about the blowing up of government buildings.

:shrug: I thought it was funny. It would be in bad taste immediately following an actual bombing, but as simply a play on words off my hypothetical scenario (which wasn't even serious or terribly likely itself), I don't see the big deal.

I tend to like dark humor, but this barely qualifies as dark since there's no actual bombing it's referencing and there's plenty of distance timewise from actual events like 9/11.
 
:shrug: I thought it was funny. It would be in bad taste immediately following an actual bombing, but as simply a play on words off my hypothetical scenario (which wasn't even serious or terribly likely itself), I don't see the big deal.

I tend to like dark humor, but this barely qualifies as dark since there's no actual bombing it's referencing and there's plenty of distance timewise from actual events like 9/11.

Do you not have a sense of humor?
:sigh: Yes, when I press my eyeballs.
It appears that no one has yet gotten my obtuse joke here :(. In making a play on words, I was conceding that from a certain point of view, the play on brevity was funny. And yet, since my joke was actually not that funny [albiet I hope groan worthy], I was hoping also to make the point that, no, the brevity pun was really not that funny, when considered in the grand scheme of things. However, I did go along and answer joke for joke, in hopes that you all would get it that I wasn't trying to be a total jerk about it.

As for the temporal distance, I'm waiting for the musical Springtime for Operation Iraqi Freedom to open on Broadway before I start to laugh openly over terrorist jokes, as I'm still too disturbed by the way in which our nation turned into a torch-led pitchfork-wielding lynch mob in direct response to 9/11.:shrug:

With that, I can officially get back on topic. Gazing into my crystal ball, I predict that Hell will come into existence, and then freeze over, before there is a viable candidate running for president in 2012 who is not a Democrat and for whom I'd vote. Reason enough for this position may be found in the ultimate clause of the previous paragraph. And yet reasons just keep getting piled on top of reasons when considers fiscal and regulatory policies.

I have no objection to the Democratic Party nominating President Obama again. The minimally adequate, and therefore sufficient, pragmatic standard in favor of this position is that the Democratic Party will nominate the candidate they collectively consider to be the most viable. At this point in American history, viable opposition to the Republican Party is critical. Furthermore, I intend to vote in both the primary and the general election. Whether I vote for President Obama in the primary depends upon who is running against him for the nomination. I don't know who that will be yet. Right now, it does not seem likely that a viable alternative will emerge.

Additionally, there is the question implicit in the OP about grading President Obama for his performance. The worst grade he's likely to get from me is a C-; the best is a B. The jury is still out, so it's impossible to be more precise. Even the very worst I could reasonably expect is way better than the F- the previous president gets from me. If President Obama would grow some balls and stand up to the hypocrites on the right over something noteworthy, even if it didn't pass, I'd give him a higher grade. I believe that the repeated pattern I'm seeing, of capitulation to the right, which is being spun as compromise, is doing our country no favors. Compromise is good, but that means two or more sides with differing interests, each putting some differences aside, in order to cooperate. I see no spirit of cooperation coming from the right. The President needs to remind conservatives of their civic duty to cooperate in a constructive manner, and actually contribute reasonable counter-proposals, instead of being little more than spoiled, hypocritical, and destructive obstructionists that they have been in the past several years. To do this, he must show everyone in no uncertain terms what he stands for, even if he has to draw a line in the sand somewhere. Otherwise, it leaves me wondering whether he really stands for anything.
 
Voted for him in 2008 and will still vote for him in 2012. Change does not happen in 2 years and these people need to get it through their thick skulls. Roosevelt definitely didn't pull the country out of the great depression in 2 years.

(don't ask me what I'm basing this on, but he doesn't seem to have done much).

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

My thoughts exactly.

I voted for him in 2008 and will vote him again in 2012.
 
I voted for Obama, and will do so again, especially now that I know he's willing to use military force abroad to protect truth, justice and all that stuff.
 
^ It's what they want to hear. They want to be persecuted, because deep down they sense that they're hateful morons - but if people are being mean to them, maybe they're not the slothful, capricious villains of today's Planet Earth after all. Gingrich is a very smart guy, so whenever someone of his intellectual caliber whores himself out for that kind of dirty work, they embrace him/it unquestioningly, because they don't know any better themselves, and don't want to find out.

Mind you, I do believe the alliance of convenience I suggested can exist and sometimes does
Between atheists and reactionary Islamists? Examples, please. And "opposing the Iraq/Afghanistan presences/wars" isn't an "alliance of convenience" if the two groups don't even speak to each other; then it's a coincidentally and mutually isolating shared goal. An alliance without dialogue is no alliance at all.

This is not an example of a coalition between atheists and reactionary Islamists, but it's "close" enough...

After Napoleon's defeat at Waterloo, the United Kingdom of the Netherlands was constructed out of the (Catholic) Austrian-Netherlands, the (Catholic) Prince-Bishopric of Liège and the (protestant) Dutch Republic.

As the Dutch king was a bit of a despot and southerners were discriminated against the "monstercoalition" of anti-despotic and anti-religious Liberals and anti-protestant (and anti-secular) Catholics was formed.

End result: in 1830 the Belgian Revolution happened and kicked the Dutchies out.



Of course, it's a very different setting than what you were going for, but alliances between these two groups can happen if the stakes are high enough.
 

You realize all four of those principles are on completely different points on the political spectrum, right?

Nazism, for example, is far, far, far, far right and Communusm is far, far, far, far, far left assuming were going with just a simple, flat, two sided scale.

:wtf: It makes me sad that people don't know a joke when they see it, but then, some people thought my anti-Obama profile was serious.
 
The Repubs/teabaggers have shown me their true colors, racism, during his few years in office so I will never support any of them. I may not like all his decisions, but he is overall a decent person, far better than anyone the Republicans could throw against him.
 
*headdesk* I know it was a joke. I was commenting on how the picture says he can't be all four and he said, Yes he can. Stay with me people.
 
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