Oh, I realise I might be stepping on the toes of people who's identity is built around their intelligence. I am not trying to undermine you as people.
Atheist Club. Begin.
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How can you prove faith? God? You can't. Granted, you can't disprove God either. However, with scientific theories, they can be proven. So in that sense, we are superior.
Oh, but, alas, a scientific theory cannot be proven. A scientific theory can only survive and fail to be refuted by the trials of history, experience, and experiment. This is what supporters of science consider to make science reasonable: that scientific theories are shaped by reality.
No scientific theory can be proven, because all scientific theories are refutable by further experiment. The best you can do is to develop a scientific theory that has survived all attempts to refute it so far.
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I sure have. Furries and Wheaton have a mutual ignoring pact. I think it's written into law somewhere.
However, with scientific theories, they can be proven. So in that sense, we are superior.
I understand that the popular kids picked on you when you were a kid. It happened to all of us at some stage. But you're an adult now, and as adults we are supposed to get past our childhood issues.
You are in no way superior to any person.
Beautiful people have hang ups too. Can you imagine what it must be like to build your identity around your looks, something that is guaranteed to grow old and decay leaving you with an empty shell of a former life..
.. hang on, your brains won't last forever either. Uh oh!!
I'll stop urinating in your thread. Hypocricy sets me off. 
*gets a mop*
I sure have. Furries and Wheaton have a mutual ignoring pact. I think it's written into law somewhere.
What did he do?
We have all forgotten Wil Wheaton's Law.
I sure have. Furries and Wheaton have a mutual ignoring pact. I think it's written into law somewhere.
What did he do?
Whatever it was, I'm sure it wasn't funny. Just like your unfunny Big Bang Theory episodes, Wheaton.
Actually, I opened this thread hoping to read some heartfelt stories about 'awakenings' - ie, along those very lines of 'why they become one', as you say. Or at least some rational discussions addressing the intellectual fallacies of religion. But with only a couple of exceptions (thanks, J. Allen, RAMA, and a couple of others - I have enjoyed reading those posts!), I'm just reading bitter diatribes about how "this or that 'religious person' made my life miserable".
Hardly productive, given that in most cases, an asshole is an asshole, with or without religion...and if you took religion away from them, they would only find some other way to justify their narrow-mindedness, their arrogance, or their bigotry.
Just like with anything else...if a person is fundamentally a jerkwad, they can turn pretty much ANYTHING into a Tool of Jerkwaddery - including, by the way, Atheism!
To focus on the TOOL as the problem is only avoiding the issue: that the person USING that tool is, at their very core, a jerkwad. And would likely remain one in any event.
We have all forgotten Wil Wheaton's Law.
I sure have. Furries and Wheaton have a mutual ignoring pact. I think it's written into law somewhere.
What did he do?
Some time back, Wheaton posted an entry on his blog about how much he hates furries and gave some negative examples of his interactions with them at cons, plugging into many of the less wholesome stereotypes about the fandom as he did. The furry fandom, as it is wont to do, got butthurt and hordes of angry furs attacked him in the comments section. He got mad, they got madder, no minds were changed and everyone walked away sore. Much like these religion threads, now that I think about it.
But as one blogger commented after, you know you're pretty fuckin' low on the geek hierarchy when you're being looked down on by Wesley Freaking Crusher.
Then we've got some serious semantic issues to work through! If one supports an unreasonable position, by definition they are not using reason.
So let me get this straight:
This thread went from how you became an atheist to criticizing faith based logic to outright bashing of the faithful to furries.
Did I get that right?
This thread went from how you became an atheist to criticizing faith based logic to outright bashing of the faithful to furries.
Did I get that right?
Just sit down and enjoy the ride. Pretty soon we'll get to Hitler.
^^^ WE JUST DID!!!!
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Eh. I know some very reasonable religious people.
Finding (or creating) structure in chaos. D&D is still fantasy, and the whole world, no matter how well built, can be modified with totally new rules, because it does not have to follow logical constants.
In the case of faith/religion, all of the set rules can be nullified and revised without affecting the fundamental laws of the universe.
Certainly. I'm just stating this from an outside perspective.
I'm not saying or implying that at all.
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